Answer and Counter Claim

    It seems that Anderson County has amended it's suit against Joey Preston. That has resulted in an amended answer and counter claim. Of course Nikki Mayo, the Janet Cooke of the Anderson Independent, will not cover this.

-leopold-galtieri

Leopold Galtieri,

Thank you for the information!

I expect that both sides of this ongoing war will find the information supportive of their respective position. No wonder this war has lasted so long!

It seems that Anderson County has amended it's suit against Joey Preston. That has resulted in an amended answer and counter claim. Of course Nikki Mayo, the Janet Cooke of the Anderson Independent, will not cover this.

Attachment: Amended Answer .pdf (2177.0KB)

-leopold-galtieri

While most of the discussion has focused on money, the document also addresses the claim of false arrest for DUI.  This might have bigger implications.

It's not about the money, it's the principle, remember? My question is, if it's not about the money, how is it about the money? If this current council doesn't have a problem with spending well over 2 1/2 million dollars in legal fees, why would they be worried about a 1.4 million dollar contract buyout? It's not about the money my a$$.

                                                                                                             -ArcLight67

Maybe he can get Elizabeth Fant to join him in a class action suit about abuse of power, harassment using law enforcement, and filing false police reports. (Don't 't anyone waste energy on a conniption that's meant tongue in cheek). The vast majority of Anderson don't care about the cost of law suit or recovering the money, the vast majority are rolling their eyes (if putting that much effort into this) and thinking, just get it over with all ready. I am sure it will be "soon".

I agree with you Nicole.  The best solution would be to throw out the County's claim, throw out Joey's counter claim, throw the current council majority out of office, and MOVE ON!  Collectively these fools have squandered nearly $4 million of our money.  I, for one, am tired of paying the band for this festive dance.

Maybe he can get Elizabeth Fant to join him in a class action suit about abuse of power, harassment using law enforcement, and filing false police reports. (Don't 't anyone waste energy on a conniption that's meant tongue in cheek). The vast majority of Anderson don't care about the cost of law suit or recovering the money, the vast majority are rolling their eyes (if putting that much effort into this) and thinking, just get it over with all ready. I am sure it will be "soon".

-nicole-walukewic

Maybeeeeeeee you should speak to your buddy at WACKO about that viewpoint Nikki?  Allegedly "he" represents the "vast majority" of our little hamlet

I agree with you Nicole.  The best solution would be to throw out the County's claim, throw out Joey's counter claim, throw the current council majority out of office, and MOVE ON!  Collectively these fools have squandered nearly $4 million of our money.  I, for one, am tired of paying the band for this festive dance.

-deepthroat

Wow it jumped from 2 million to 4 million dollars with no documentation? How amazing. That's 22.22 cents per house hold per year. I don't think your making a huge point here considering only 20% of the people  vote +/- and that means the vast majority don't care about your highly inflated cost of this case. In fact, that actual cost is about 11.11 cents per household per year and that means even fewer people care about that cost.Good try though.

Nicole, I don't have any documentation other than what's appeared in the AIM and other places, but if the Driver-ites think the county "squandered" $1.3 million of taxpayer money on Joey Preston's buyout, and the Prestonistas think the county "squandered" about $2 million so far on the investigation, then 1.3 + 2.0 = $3.3 million.
       I'm an English major, but it seems to me that $3.3 million is closer to $4 million than it is to $2 million if we're into splitting hairs over rounding.

The bad thing is that the millions spent so far is not the end. We haven't even started on the breech of contract suit that will surely be brought by Preston.

                                                                                                                -ArcLight67

Nicole, I don't have any documentation other than what's appeared in the AIM and other places, but if the Driver-ites think the county "squandered" $1.3 million of taxpayer money on Joey Preston's buyout, and the Prestonistas think the county "squandered" about $2 million so far on the investigation, then 1.3 + 2.0 = $3.3 million.
       I'm an English major, but it seems to me that $3.3 million is closer to $4 million than it is to $2 million if we're into splitting hairs over rounding.

-geraldgarrett

Ah, thank you Gerald, I really hadn't read 90% of the posts so seeing 2 jump to 4 was a surprise but you math is close enough for everything but statistical analysis. <grin>  however the fact remains that while they spend it, it doesn't amount to much spread out over the number of househilds who a re paying for the unnessisary buyout and the subsequent investigation, resulting law suits to stop the investigation, and more investigation. As we have all come to understand we are in the last moments of this process because it can't be dragged on for more than a one year term with two additional six month terms so, as we all love to read here onn the ATZ it darn sure has to be "soon". .

I think that your math is a little off Nicole..

if there are 74,850 households in Anderson county..(US Census figures in2010)  then you are saying it has only cost us countywide a grand total of $8,315.88 per year? (74,850 x .1111)

How many years are you going back and forward to get to $2,000,000?

My math says it has cost us over $26 per household using your figures.

Using Geralds it has cost us $44.00 per household.

And using  Deep throats figures...it has cost us $53.44 per household.

Now any of those figures are obscene. I find it more appalling however that anyone can justify any of those figures as acceptible, but when confronted with a ..."tax increase" that might equal a fraction of the same amount it becomes "too much to bear" and will "destroy the economy". We are told "the people wont stand for it" when by your own admission, the people apparently dont care...since only 20% vote.

You justify wasting money on a witchhunt because "only 20% vote so obviously the people dont care". That same logic then would apply I suspect to millage increases..to allowing Sunday alcohol sales and to implementing a hospitality tax, among other issues kept off the ballot or away from the voters...since people in anderson county wont vote regardless and only 20% turn out at the polls. So why do we not see such issues? Why is the right wing/radio crowd scared of the 20% for some issues, and dismissive of them for others?

Is it arrogance? Does the right wing/radio crowd "know better" than the 80% do?

Is it paternalistic (maternalistic)? Do they know what is right regardless of whatever the 80% may believe is right?

The deeper y'all get into this quicksand...the less your "logic" is working.

Whats even more absurd in that assumption is....how many actually PAY taxes?
Would it be that same 20%???  That changes the math, doesn't it?

Lets open these up and do some REAL reading folks!

http://media.independentmail.com/media/static/prestonresponse1.pdf

Is falsification of documents and  altering sworn testimony given to the Grand Jury investigation a FELONY?  How about when the INVESTIGATORS are the one's doing so??

http://media.independentmail.com/media/static/prestonresponse2.pdf

I truly LOVE Exhibit "C"   Lets note the timeframe here.  It's no wonder Eddie fought so hard to HIDE these e-mails  ( written from his old employer's server that Eddie said never existed!)

"Oh no Judge Maddox, I never conducted COUNTY business from my work computer!"

Now one "Moore" thing we should all be looking at:

On exhibit "B"....would the readers please check the NAMES of those "CC'd" in the header line?
 
Should we break those down individually or lumped together in conspiracy mode?!?!?

Thank you for presenting these official documents for our reading pleasure. After harping on the corruption that has existed in Anderson County government for the past four years and trying to point out the extent of this corruption to the residents of Anderson County, I sincerely hope our Anderson County voters will turn out at this year’s primaries and vote as many of these officials out of office as possible.  These documents prove the extent that our county law enforcement, high ranking county employees and current county council members are involved in unlawful activities or knowingly condoned these types of unlawful acts. No amount of political spin can cover-up the true facts. The only problem for concern is the big money individuals that pull the strings on these small-time stooges. The headmen in the “good old boy bunch” that corrupts all that it touches.  If they are fingered, the head of the snake is removed and Anderson County can move forward. Again, thank you.

Whats even more absurd in that assumption is....how many actually PAY taxes?
Would it be that same 20%???  That changes the math, doesn't it?

-wyatt1sc

Wyatt all property owners pay property taxes. Not all people who can vote do. The percentage of voters fluctuates being higher during presidential elections and state only. Slightly more Americans vote when there is a presidential races. No that didn't effect the math.

Wyatt all property owners pay property taxes. Not all people who can vote do. The percentage of voters fluctuates being higher during presidential elections and state only. Slightly more Americans vote when there is a presidential races. No that didn't effect the math.

-nicole-walukewic

oops edit didn't work. More people vote during presidential election, fewer vote when it's just state and local elections. All property owners pay taxes, if not the property is sold at auction for taxes with the end result being the taxes still get paid.

between car ownership, property ownership and sales taxes..

pretty much 100 % of the people ,...legal and illegal..pay local taxes..

I think that your math is a little off Nicole..
if there are 74,850 households in Anderson county..(US Census figures in2010)  then you are saying it has only cost us countywide a grand total of $8,315.88 per year? (74,850 x .1111)
How many years are you going back and forward to get to $2,000,000?
My math says it has cost us over $26 per household using your figures.
Using Geralds it has cost us $44.00 per household.
And using  Deep throats figures...it has cost us $53.44 per household.

Now any of those figures are obscene. I find it more appalling however that anyone can justify any of those figures as acceptible, but when confronted with a ..."tax increase" that might equal a fraction of the same amount it becomes "too much to bear" and will "destroy the economy". We are told "the people wont stand for it" when by your own admission, the people apparently dont care...since only 20% vote.
You justify wasting money on a witchhunt because "only 20% vote so obviously the people dont care". That same logic then would apply I suspect to millage increases..to allowing Sunday alcohol sales and to implementing a hospitality tax, among other issues kept off the ballot or away from the voters...since people in anderson county wont vote regardless and only 20% turn out at the polls. So why do we not see such issues? Why is the right wing/radio crowd scared of the 20% for some issues, and dismissive of them for others?
Is it arrogance? Does the right wing/radio crowd "know better" than the 80% do?
Is it paternalistic (maternalistic)? Do they know what is right regardless of whatever the 80% may believe is right?
The deeper y'all get into this quicksand...the less your "logic" is working.

-palmetto-native

4 million dollars divided by the number of households divided by the number of years  the buyout and investigation have gone on (three). If we use Gerald's 3.3 million (rather than 4) and the 2010 census as a median number of household over the three years, then each household has paid 44.00 (rounded from 44.08) divided by the three years this has gone on is 14.69 dollars per house hold per year.
Alternately we could take the 1.3 million dollar buy out that was paid in 2008 and divide it by the 74K households in the 2010 census which means each household paid $17.36. for the buyout. Then we would  take the 2M that the investigation has cost and spread it out over a three year period which averages out to 8.90 per household per year or,  2M/ 74850 (households) /3 (years). The majority of the costs actually were spent over an 18 month period but if you try to get exact numbers from the county and the cost of each related case, you will need a FOI request. That might result in a response that, "the county does not have to answer interrogatories" also known as either we don't have an answer or we don't want to give the answer to you. <grin>  However you work it out the cost per household is minimal which is one of the arguments used by the defense in the Freemantle v. Anderson County et al law suit. I agree that the whole situation was obscene but I would be referring to the buyout. I believe it was unnecessary and excessive. That opinion is based on case law that states a council cannot be bound by another council by PERSONNEL contracts exceeding their terms.(which does not include service contracts). The Preston contract if you consider the wording should have been a buyout of 300K plus or minus a few thousand, not 1.3 million. The suggestion that being fired by a council will ruin an Administrators ability to find another job in administration is absurd, these people get fired or encouraged to move on all the time, they also find new jobs in administration. At any rate, while this matter will finally be resolved this county and it's two warring factions will find a new war virtually insuring that the drama will continue. However unlikely it is, it would be refreshing to have a council that would implement a zero based budget project spread out over a three year cycle and not use their office to push personal agendas, to have an administrator with experience, leadership skills and excellent budgeting skills, and law enforcement that doesn't use its office for politics and concerns itself with preventing crime and arresting criminals. The quicksand seems to be something you step in when you are elected in Anderson County.

I guess I was saying that there is a huge difference in 11 cents per household and $8..$14..or $17 per household...or more....

I also go back to the oft made claim that NO amount of money per household is acceptable..made by freemantle himself..

so I hope he is not now saying that there is a level of cost per household that is "insignificant"..

Is that what he is saying?