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From the AIM website today. Maybe this will explain to some of you why we're so adamant about moderation and why it's so important. I'll remind you all again: We exist, for now, only because the AIM allows us to. If you really want to retain any voice in the community through sites like this one, please heed our warnings, keep it clean, keep it civil and avoid the personal attacks. If we can't do that, we probably don't deserve a community forum, and we certainly won't have one of this magnitude again: 

 

Giving it to you straight

Straight Talk is no more, or won’t be after Sunday.

The volume of distasteful (and potentially libelous) comments made under the excuse of anonymity has brought us to this conclusion: In the age of the Internet, there are enough outlets for anonymous comment, for people willing to express an opinion but unwilling to own it.

Anonymous comments have long been our bane. And because we won’t publish some of the nasty or unsubstantiated comments that come through Straight Talk, the caller will call again and complain. Repeat callers have often been a problem. One caller’s personal best is 26 calls in a row, all saying the same thing. There is a caller who tries to disguise her voice to make it seem as if the identical views are coming from different people. And there are the callers who swear, call others names and make comments that are racist, insulting or without any merit.

There are the callers who want to thank someone, or express a legitimate and civil view and the callers who obviously just want someone to hear their voices. We regret they won’t have this outlet anymore.

But there are more who don’t understand what Straight Talk was for — not to call names, not to complain about a private business, not to gossip about the preacher’s affair, not to spread rumors and not to threaten one’s neighbor.

Some of the calls have been downright scary.

Straight Talk’s last day of publication will be Sunday. On our publication schedule, that means any call made after 4 p.m. on Friday will not appear. And not all of those will; the volume of calls has always been such that the majority are not published — or publishable.

In addition, it is unfair to allow anonymous and often derogatory comments on letters to the editor, just because they are posted online. Letters are from people who have the courage to affix their names to their views. To allow others who don’t have that conviction to trash them is wrong. For at least the last eight years, we have not published Straight Talk comments that relate to letters, even the positive ones, because if we didn’t publish the criticism, it was one-sided to publish the compliments.

Thus readers may have noticed that the online capability to affix anonymous comments to letters to the editor and editorials online has been disabled.

All too often, we’ve had people who spread the same comment across our Web site, regardless of the story, simply in an attempt to degrade someone else or spread a rumor. Those few are to blame. No one else. We appreciate those who offer constructive comments. But free speech doesn’t mean someone is allowed to deliberately spread rumors, lie, exaggerate or try to create controversy for his or her own amusement.

For anyone who has been banned from a site because of his or her poor behavior to claim his or her free speech is being infringed upon is ironic. The First Amendment is intended to support the expression of truth without fear, not the spreading of untruths without compunction or responsibility.

There are online comments taken to extremes with personal attacks and untruths. Some refuse to limit their comments to the issue at hand, and too often degenerate into personal attacks, more often than not at the others making comments. The purpose of comment capability is to add something to the discussion, to provoke thought on an issue, not to exorcise one’s demons by demonizing another’s views.

There is another reason we’ve come to this point on anonymous call-ins: Straight Talk is a dinosaur. The equipment used is so out of date, the company that produced it has been out of business for several years. There is no way to make repairs, no one who has the capability to do so without access to parts.

Views of readers are, as always, welcome, regardless of the position. But they must follow the letters to the editor guidelines to be considered, with the caveat that appears in our printed policy every day: Letters may be edited for clarity or good taste. Anonymous comments leave a bad aftertaste. We welcome comments that create a fresh perspective — and those that are legitimized by a name, address and telephone number.

The person whose name appears at the top of this page every day is responsible for the editorials, on behalf of the editorial board. Readers can assume that with rare exceptions, she is the author of them. In that spirit, we’ll sign off with …

— Bonnie Williams, for the editorial board

 

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JDTippett,

This topic explains in clear terms the reasons and the goals of moderated public forums. Thank you.

JDTippett, do you know why some topics make it to “Headlines”, while other, as this one, do not?

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JDTippett, do you know why some topics make it to “Headlines”, while other, as this one, do not?

-art-kaldas

Art, I think the selection of what goes on the "Headlines" page is some sort of automatic function of Lefora. I'm not sure if we have any control over it, but I'll see if I can find out for you.

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Art, I think the selection of what goes on the "Headlines" page is some sort of automatic function of Lefora. I'm not sure if we have any control over it, but I'll see if I can find out for you.

-jdtippett

JDTippett,

I hope we can find a way to control what is posted on “Headlines”, since Headlines is what first attracts the attention of readers and nonmembers. I will appreciate any answers you find for us.

superstar - member
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Poor straight talk...

Lefora seems to be pretty fond of their "Headlines" and "What's Hot". I suspect their database is storing topic views from logging source and then sorting the results by date to create the data. Don't think you can do anything to control the content, other than to look at a topic a lot?

I also found an interesting hack. To make the thumbz go away:

"You should be able to hide the thumbs control with the following css code:

.post_score, .post_vote_control {display:none;}

Go to the theme tab in admin, click css and paste the above in the box, and hit save at the bottom, and it should vannish from view."
-Lefora Help Forum / The Chief

I believe there is also a CSS hack to make the headlines disappear too.

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Bonnie Williams said: "There is another reason we’ve come to this point on anonymous call-ins: Straight Talk is a dinosaur. The equipment used is so out of date, the company that produced it has been out of business for several years. There is no way to make repairs, no one who has the capability to do so without access to parts."

I believe the above is the real reason Straight Talk is leaving. Would be costly to buy new software and it's just another way AIM can cut expense.
I hope the new Editor, Mr. Huff, will try to have a conservative editorial writer every other day to offset the liberal views of Ms. Williams. After all, the majority of voters in our area are conservative people in spite of what a few liberals that post in forums may say.

superstar - member
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I found that excuse to be very interesting. I was always under the assumption that Straight Talk was just an answering machine. I guess you really do learn something new every day.

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