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A study of contrasts: Anderson City Council Meetings Vs. Anderson County Circus

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Anyone else notice how much more professional the Anderson City Council Meetings are than the Royal Circus at The Anderson County Meetings?? It is pretty bad when the City of Anderson outshines the County like they do........

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Anderson Retro,

During the City of Anderson Council meeting on December 08, two public hearings turned the meeting to a battle field, somewhat similar to Anderson County Council meetings. Consequently, I began to question the purpose and benefits of public hearings, especially when a few nuts use the privilege to hijack council meetings.

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Crazy...crazy folks causing a ruckus at these meetings. I always think that the public should have a forum. However, crazy nuts should not take advantage of this. I think part of the problem is that there should be a better mediator/leader/public speaker as chairmen at these events. We need a Judge Wapner-type who is professional, but who also want let nuts like this take over the public forum!!!!!!!!

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Do you mean, like, a MODERATOR to keep the "crazy nuts" from taking over the public forum? Hey, I like that idea! Maybe we should try it here someday.
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It has been some time since I have attended either of the two council meetings.  I thought you had to sign up at County Council meetings to speak.  Is there not a limit on amount of time allowed?  Should the rule on outbursts not be settled by removing a few of them from the meeting? 

 I have a concern that I took to the City Council Meeting of the former administration. I was given time to state my concerns and was treated very politely by all except the former Mayor.

There are rules of order that a proper chairman should be aware of and use to control the meetings.

What was the subject that brought up such an emotional response?

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. Consequently, I began to question the purpose and benefits of public hearings, especially when a few nuts use the privilege to hijack council meetings.

-art-kaldas

Art I understand the turmoil may be upsetting and unwanted. But questioning "the purpose and benefits of public hearings" seems a little harsh. You "don't throw the baby out with the bath water".

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Anderson Retro,

During the City of Anderson Council meeting on December 08, two public hearings turned the meeting to a battle field, somewhat similar to Anderson County Council meetings. Consequently, I began to question the purpose and benefits of public hearings, especially when a few nuts use the privilege to hijack council meetings.


-art-kaldas



C'mon Art, how about the sincere, civil and responsible citizen with something of value to say ? Isn't that what 'freedom of speech' is all about ?
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Lefora assures me they're working on it, PAPPY. Not sure it's necessary to note when we remove duplicate posts, by the way. When we do that, we still wind up with two posts instead of just one, which kind of defeats the purpose of removing one of them..
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bla bla blah... especially when a few nuts use the privilege to hijack council meetings.

-art-kaldas


I am kinda glad a "few nuts" held a tea party in Boston Harbor a few years ago.

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Art, How does the government represent us if you take our ability to voice our concerns or ideas away? That my friend is not part of our political process.

I find most of the people who speak often leave me wondering what point they were trying to make but they should have the right to try to address their government representative and the Council to try to get their point across.

If the people are rude, you really can't help it, that runs rampant everywhere but if the use profane language, are threatening and loud, they can and should be removed.




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Lefora assures me they're working on it, PAPPY. Not sure it's necessary to note when we remove duplicate posts, by the way. When we do that, we still wind up with two posts instead of just one, which kind of defeats the purpose of removing one of them..

-jdtippett



I tried to remove the second post by deleting everything, but then it automatically posts the entire first post. Is there a way to completely eliminate a duplicate post ?

The only reason I indicate why I removed the second post was to assure those who think moderators manipulate their postings, didn't in this instance.
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PAPPY, give me a call later today and we'll go over the process. The only time you can't entirely remove a post without causing problems is if it's the first post on a new thread. That eliminates the entire thread, including everything that follows, so if somebody starts a new THREAD with a double post, you have to remove the second one, not the first one.

Some members are going to accuse us of manipulating posts anyway, PAPPY. Others will see that we're only eliminating posts. We're in a no-win situation with those here who think that we think we're gods - but they don't want moderation of any kind, so don't sweat that little detail. Wink

I notice the server is still sloooowwww today, and that's a large part of what's causing those double posts. I'll see if Lefora has any idea how long that's going to last.

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I am kinda glad a "few nuts" held a tea party in Boston Harbor a few years ago.

-g-papadopolis



Well, that was one way of getting your govenrments attention! The other is making faces at Michael Thompson and getting thrown out of the meeting. What if the poor guy had a facial tick? What a law suit that would be. <g>
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If the guy had refused to leave I wonder what he would have been charged with? Is making faces at a politician against the law? If he was sitting there and keeping his mouth shut he apparently was doing a lot better than many others at the meeting.

I guess "freedom of expression" does not apply? Innocent

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If the guy had refused to leave I wonder what he would have been charged with? Is making faces at a politician against the law? If he was sitting there and keeping his mouth shut he apparently was doing a lot better than many others at the meeting.

I guess "freedom of expression" does not apply? [image]


-non-sequitur



I call it blatant abuse of power and a failure on the part of the Park Police to not know facial expressions are not illegal or a reason to evict someone from a public meeting. Too bad enough people wouldn't see the humor in having the entire body of attendees make faces and have everyone cast out for it! Now that would make the drudge report. LOL
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If the guy had refused to leave I wonder what he would have been charged with? Is making faces at a politician against the law? If he was sitting there and keeping his mouth shut he apparently was doing a lot better than many others at the meeting.

I guess "freedom of expression" does not apply?

-non-sequitur

Well, as Jack Lord used to say on Hawaii 5-0 every week after they collared the bad guy, "Facebook 'im, Dano!" Laughing

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If you think Anderson is the only city with "issues' within it's council, guess nobody has watched the Simpsonville council lately.  Seems their Admistrator has spending problems, the Chairman is running a "circus", the chamber members unruly and boisterous, there is a Driver wannabee riling up the crowds with "I told you so..." rhetoric, and pushing & shoving in the hallways.

Guess THEY watch channel 14 too.

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If the guy had refused to leave I wonder what he would have been charged with? Is making faces at a politician against the law? If he was sitting there and keeping his mouth shut he apparently was doing a lot better than many others at the meeting.

-non-sequitur

I would think DISORDERLY CONDUCT would be the likely charge. If he HAD something to say, thats what public comments are for. If you act orderly & follow the laws and rules, no prob!

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