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repub, are you receiving a commision on this transaction?

-hgmoore

I sure hope so. But, it's not likely. wink, wink

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In this economic enviroment we have a coucil that just took jobs out of people's future to give a lot of money to a person about half the county doesn't like. this is not a reflection on JP but rather one on the council members that are leaving their offices. JP also made more than a lot of governors of states. Why?
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Now after this financial commitment for the severance package, how can the county afford the forensic audit they have already voted to do? Or was that included in the earlier budget?

-the-queen

From all the "savings" Bob and Cindy and their new cohorts plan to implement.
Of course, they know there is no need for an audit of that depth. It was all about getting re-elected and pulling in the save negative minded candidtaes to help them gain control.

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Dead serious, it's a rape. The rape was performed by six members of our community. Before republikin looks it  up this is from her favorite sources MW, " an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force". The word is appropriate, the act was not.

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In this economic enviroment we have a coucil that just took jobs out of people's future to give a lot of money to a person about half the county doesn't like. this is not a reflection on JP but rather one on the council members that are leaving their offices. JP also made more than a lot of governors of states. Why?

-noeline

Because he actually does something. Unlike Sanford who does nothing !

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Dead serious, it's a rape. The rape was performed by six members of our community. Before republikin looks it up this is from her favorite sources MW, " an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force". The word is appropriate, the act was not.

-1-opinion

You are repeating Rick Driver. Calling this a rape denegrates every woman who has suffered such a horrible act. Choose your words more carefully.

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Yeah, republikin, Joey has done lots and lots of stuff. All bad.

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Yeah, republikin, Joey has done lots and lots of stuff. All bad.

-prevail

So you say......!

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All right prevail lets get something straight here allright, there aint going to be no lawsuites. Period. End of discussion, you may go ahead and file one but in all likelyhood it will be dismissed. Why you may ask? Simple since Anderson County Council (and all other councils too) serves at the pleasure of the State they enjoy SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY in the state court system and since there is no federal question here there is recourse in the federal court system here either. What is Sovereign Immunity you may ask? Simple its as the common law describes it; The King may do now Wrong. As long as no laws were broken and there weren't these county councilmen (and the federal, state governments as well) enjoy protection from suit for all actions they took while in office in the course of their official duties. For more on state sovereign immunity see Amendment XI to the Constitution of the United States and subsequent US Supreme Court decisions.

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Dixiecrat that may come as a bit of a surprise to those that brought suit against conuty and state governments during the civil rights movement... and won!
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Yes non-sequitur but again as I said look at the US Supreme Court's decisions, according to the XIV and XV Amendments Congress has the power enforce these amendments, one of these powers is to remove the immunity of the states, again a state loses its immunity when another state files suit, also they lose it when a federal constitutional issue is raised. Again though that was in federal court there is no federal issue and in state court this will in all likeliness be dismissed.(The counties immunity is granted to them by the virtue of the fact that they are apart of the political body of the State)So under the common law (state constitution too) no state may be sued without its consent. Again: The King May Do No Wrong. So while it is true you may sue the state it must grant its permission first. In many cases this is already done.

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I do not have the legal knowledge to fence with you. Your overall legal knowledge is far beyond mine.

But Sir I cannot help but think you may be mistaken. If what you say is true, no county or state government would ever be sued unless it is in a Federal court. I don't think that is the case.

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No sir what I am saying is that these provisions are meant for the protection of the government. It ensures those who we have elected aren't sued for the decisions they make while executing their duties. It also keeps courts from making political decisions that are outside their jurisdiction.

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No sir what I am saying is that these provisions are meant for the protection of the government. It ensures those who we have elected aren't sued for the decisions they make while executing their duties. It also keeps courts from making political decisions that are outside their jurisdiction.

-dixiecrat

It's an imperfect system, but it works. Keeps the kooks from filing go-no-where suits. Can you imagine how MCW would tie up the courts if these rules were not in place?

Just think, when all the Rick Driver folks donate their $10 bucks a piece for a law suit to reverse the Council Majority decision (made in public and filmed so anyone who wishes can view it) should be about enough money to mail an envelope to the courts. Oh, I forget, Barrister Bob might do some lawyer'n for a small fee?

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You are repeating Rick Driver. Calling this a rape denegrates every woman who has suffered such a horrible act. Choose your words more carefully.


-republikin



I challenge you to show how the proper use of this word "denigrates" women who have suffered sexual assault. Get a grip. You must expand your vocabulary a bit to see that words can have multiple uses and not take away from the meaning.
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Republikin, looks to me like you think you are "in charge"  always telling us what we can or can't say. You must get tired from always climbing on that high horse of yours.
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Republikin, looks to me like you think you are "in charge" always telling us what we can or can't say. You must get tired from always climbing on that high horse of yours.

-confused



Heck for someone with so much fictitious inside knowledge, I wish she would learn to spell or use spell check. <g>
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It'll be ok, everyone.
This will pass, and we will all move on.

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No sir what I am saying is that these provisions are meant for the protection of the government. It ensures those who we have elected aren't sued for the decisions they make while executing their duties. It also keeps courts from making political decisions that are outside their jurisdiction.


-dixiecrat



When the "government fails to serve the people and violates their own rules they can and should be taken to task. This happening from Tuesday is the perfect example of when the government should be held accountable. Yes, it can be done. You don't have to sue the Council (but of you do and are successful the IRF pays their tab) but you can challenge actions. Come on people, question the actions of this Council.



Taken form the AIM comments

Make the call and ask the questions

Try these numbers

The AG has an attorney for "constituent services".
(803) 734-3970

or go on line here:
http://www.scattorneygeneral.org/ag/c...

You can pull up the form to file violations against any member you want on the web site: http://www.scattorneygeneral.org/ag/c...

Or you can call

South Carolina State Ethics Commission
5000 Thurmond Mall, Suite 250
Columbia, South Carolina 29201

(803) 253-4192 (office)

Do something, doing nothing means you agree with what has happened.


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I challenge you to show how the proper use of this word "denigrates" women who have suffered sexual assault. Get a grip. You must expand your vocabulary a bit to see that words can have multiple uses and not take away from the meaning.

-1-opinion

That's 1-opinion. However, opinions differ, facts don't.

The word was specifically used to evoke an emotion. Don't try to weasel out of it.

I find no clear defination of "rape" as an act of violence that eliminates sexual assualt. Perhaps you refer to an obscure European herb from which is gathered rape-seed. In which case, the word is misapplied.

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