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In the most emotionally charged County Council meeting, the following moves toward the Administrator, Joey Preston, happened:

•County employees presented a resolution to honor Mr. Joey Preston for his many years of service. Mr. Preston appeared to be surprised and touched. His response was unusually emotional.
•By a vote of 5-2, the Council voted to buyout Mr. Preston Contract for $1.1 million.
•By a vote of 5-2, the Council voted to hire Mr. Michael Cunningham as the New Administrator.
•Mr. Joey Preston received a standing ovation by 2/3 of citizens attending the Council meeting.

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Art I have just called individuals in 4 different county departments. None of them knew anything about "a resolution to honor Mr. Joey Preston for his many years of service". Are you sure this wasn't a PR move by those close to the throne?
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Art I have just called individuals in 4 different county departments. None of them knew anything about "a resolution to honor Mr. Joey Preston for his many years of service". Are you sure this wasn't a PR move by those close to the throne?

-nomadron

Nomadron,

How you describe the resolution depends on how you feel about Mr. Joey Preston. Those who oppose him would describe it as a PR move, while those who support him consider it a well deserved honor.

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Nomad Ron, I was at the meeting.  Mr. Preston was given the award.  I know nothing of the selection process.  But he was given the award.
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Art my point is you report this as if it were a consensus of county employees. I assure you it was not!
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Queen I have no doubt he got the award. I question its validity. Tomorrow I can get a few county employees to hold hands around Mr. Whitner's statue in front of the courthouse and declare it the a nice piece of art. That would not justify a report of "Anderson County Employees declare Mr. Whitner's statue the best in Anderson."
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Queen I have no doubt he got the award. I question its validity. Tomorrow I can get a few county employees to hold hands around Mr. Whitner's statue in front of the courthouse and declare it the a nice piece of art. That would not justify a report of "Anderson County Employees declare Mr. Whitner's statue the best in Anderson."

-nomadron

We'll look for you out there. My guess is you wouldn't recognize good art if you had it pointed out to you. By the way, the Whitner bronze is a sculpture, not a statue. See what I mean?

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This is straight from from a list of attractions downtown.  Guess the city does not know what it is either.Undecided

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Republikin; it is not a sculpture , it is in fact a poured bronze statue. No one had anything to do with carving it, it was poured  and finished with bronze and copper power.
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We'll look for you out there. My guess is you wouldn't recognize good art if you had it pointed out to you. By the way, the Whitner bronze is a sculpture, not a statue. See what I mean?


-republikin

Once again republikin swings............ and misses! Laughing
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The award was just another setup by King Joey and something else he will put on his resume. And he didn't have to purchase this one thru the mail as he has some of his 'awards'. Joey packed the room with those that have benefited most from his time on the throne, in my opinion. King Joe and his Gang of Shame have pulled another smoke and mirror trick off in plain view but they will pay for it dearly in months to come. The law eventually will bring the bankrobbers to justice.

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Art was the council meeting hijacked since I saw nothing in the paper that had anything to do with what was part of the original agenda.

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Republikin; it is not a sculpture , it is in fact a poured bronze statue. No one had anything to do with carving it, it was poured and finished with bronze and copper power.

-taxi-dude

Sorry, it's a sculpture. The artist (Zan Wells of Greenville) did the sculpture in clay and it was later poured in bronze. Go to the arts center and ask them if it's a sculpture or and statue?

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He sure is the KIng of beating Cindy Wilson. The score today: Preston 13 MCW 0
Who do you want to bet on?

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Preston 1,114,000 ... Anderson County taxpayers 0
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Preston 1,114,000 ... Anderson County taxpayers 0

-jdtippett



C'mon JD ... work with me here. The big loser is not the taxpayer in Anderson County, as the county is good for the money (see also - Reserve Fund). The loser or losers here are the incoming council and the bill of goods that was sold TO the taxpayers of Anderson.

During the campaign, there was a concerted effort by the opposition to tie JRP to the incumbents (and in two cases, challengers). Many people (well, as many as are willing to vote in a Republican Primary) went to the polls with the idea of anti-incumbent, anti-JRP . . . and they were successful.

Fast-forward to November, 2008. The central piece of MANY of those campaigns was shattered last night at council. All that these folks ran on was "We're not JRP and we're not the establishment." Well, both JRP and the establishment are gone now. The wind was completely removed from their sails and now they have to prove that they can do SOMETHING ... something other than NOT being JRP.

They have their blank check audit . . . they have gotten rid of JRP . . . the question for many Andersonians now is: You got what you wanted, now what are you going to do for me? Can you deliver now that TWO of your biggest issues have been answered and dealt with?

The answer is NO . . . and they, the anti-growth crowd, is furious.


. . . learn to play chess . . . stupids . . .


- SSHM
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Admittedly, I know little to nothing about contract law, but what I don't understand is why you would buy someone out of a contract because you anticipate a breach of that contract. Should you not be forced to wait until the contract has actually been breached? I mean if the incoming council had done anything other than fire him, would he be entitled to this buyout? I really am asking.

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SSHM, I am trying to work with you here. You and I, along with a couple of others, saw this one coming - but I still think the current Council overreached. They won the match, then taunted their beaten opponents and spiked the chess board, so to speak.

Let me elaborate:

1. The buyout of Preston's contract, in an of itself, was the right thing to do. It clears the board for the next match. But I had called for some sort of compromise - somewhere LESS than what a court may order in the future if there had been litigation, but somewhere slightly higher than a year's salary and benefits. THERE IS NO WAY $1.14 MILLION IS A COMPROMISE! IT'S A ROBBERY!

2. The elimination of Joey Preston from the equation was a brilliant stroke of genius by Ron Wilson or whoever engineered it, if only because it takes away the favorite target of his critics who will control the majority vote on the new Council. However, immediately naming JP's assistant administrator to the top job, complete with a new contract, was a stroke of stupidity. I'm sure Mr. Cunningham will be a fine administrator, and I've always believe that positions like this one should be filled from WITHIN the existing hierarchy if possible. But Cunningham should have been named INTERIM administrator while a search was conducted, then the decision on the new administrator should have been left to the new Council. PERIOD.

3. And that brings me to the proposed complete audit. The demand for that audit was an effective tool JP's critics used in their ongoing efforts to get rid of him. Now, he's gone, with a "hold blameless" clause in his walking papers. BEST PATH: Save the county a million dollars or more by scrapping the "forensic audit" of past years. Establish clear, concrete policies on the use of county credit cards, Eco-Devo travel, and the authority of the Administrator to transfer funds from one account to another without Council approval. Set up a couple of ethics seminars for all employees so they will clearly understand what is and is not appropriate. Carry out an INTERNAL audit of questioned accounts. DO NOT LEAVE CURRENT ANDERSON COUNTY EMPLOYEES IN FEAR OF LOSING THEIR JOBS FOR SOMETHING THEY DID WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR. That would be the most counterproductive thing the new Council could possibly do, and I can assure you that today, as we speak, there are county employees who are afraid they're going to be fired simply for doing their jobs as they were told to do them. (I do undertand the Lt. William Calley defense, by the way - but that's not relevant here.)

The current Council HAD a legitimate claim that they cleared the board for the new Council by dealing with the Preston issue. They had a legitimate claim that they weren't standing in the way of any audits, because they had approved a complete audit (without designating funding for it.) But by overpaying Preston to leave, and by immediately naming his replacement, they lost their claim to have "done the right thing."

No, they stuck five thumbs in the eyes of Anderson County taxpayers last night on their way out the door.

The stupidity of both sides of these issues never ceases to amaze me, SSHM - and that includes your side. I've watched this from afar, and I've seen both sides constantly demean their poltical opponents as stupid, as crooked, as incompetent, as (fill in the word du jour.) And I said back in June, after Preston's critics started gloating and taunting their defeated opponents, that I thought they were overplaying their hand. That was because I understood, as you did, just how strong a hand Joey Preston really had under state law.

Now, Preston's supporters have totally overplayed a very strong hand. I see no good coming out of this in the short term, and very little in the long term, because of the massive overreach. Given the opportunity to resolve the main problem that Preston has become a divisive figure, the current Council threw a new supply of ammuniton to their critics. A war that could have ended, to the benefit of everybody, instead was deliberately escalated with a pair of "in your face" votes last night.

I have always agreed with you, SSHM, that stupid should hurt more. Unfortunately, in Anderson County, it often seems that both sides have had their "stupid" nerves cut and don't feel a thing. In fact, there seems to be an epidemic of brain damage in Anderson County that has infected both sides of the issues.

At some point, SSHM, somebody in Anderson County who is both smarter and more patient than either one of us is going to step in a mediate this foolish, destructive war of words and actions so Anderson County can finally be dragged, kicking and screaming, at least into the 1980s. Perhaps that may will be Cunningham - but the way his hiring was handled, I have my doubts. He is already being undermined by Joey's critics here, and I don't see him as having much chance to win over the new Council after this outrage that he had little to do with.

It's sad, really. I don't know him, but from everything I've heard he has all the ability in the world to be a great administrator - but in a county that doesn't eat on its own for sport. This will never end until both sides make peace and decide to work together, without the games they're both guilty of playing.

And, after last night's squandered opportunity to make peace, I just don't see that happening.

 

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Admittedly, I know little to nothing about contract law, but what I don't understand is why you would buy someone out of a contract because you anticipate a breach of that contract. Should you not be forced to wait until the contract has actually been breached? I mean if the incoming council had done anything other than fire him, would he be entitled to this buyout? I really am asking.


-ibvirginia



Exactly. There were so many other ways to handle this but Preston influenced  the majority of Council against representing the county. I hope that the labor attorney's recommendations are made public. I doubt he found this a necessary action or even appropriate.
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I think Cunningham would receive a standing ovation if he were to stand before the new council and say; :I'd like to go back to being assistant administrator, so you can properly advertise and hire the one you want.  My guess is he would win the job and the credibility and the standing of having beat out any competition.  I think everyonesrespect for the man would increase tremendously.
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