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Added to $500,000 in legal fees, tons of lost time in her witch hunts,total disruption of the county's business, and continuous allegations of wrong doing, the buy-out of $1,140,000 must bring the total cost of Cindy's campaign to over $2,000,000 in taxpayers' money.

It is no wonder that she now does not want the complete audit ! Clearly, the illusion of wrongdoing suits her purposes much better than the likelyhood that no wrongdoing will be found.

I propose this: Have the audit. If criminal wrong doing is uncovered, take the wrongdoer to court. If not, add the $1,000,000 cost of the audit to Cindy's ongoing waste of money and charge Cindy the $3,000,000 + that she has cost us. That's a huge price to the taxpayers, just because Cindy lost at Beaverdam.

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Are you insane?
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Joey maybe gone but this all has a bad taste. I don't really have an opinion on Joey one way or another. But this just smells really bad. Makes me wonder if all the stuff Cindy and Bob were yelling about is true. Like I said this all smells.

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OK splain this to me, I was typing the above post to the thread Joey is gone, my screen went black then came back on, I finished typing my comment hit submit, looked at the post and it was on the wrong thread. How is that possible?
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do an audit.
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OK splain this to me, I was typing the above post to the thread Joey is gone, my screen went black then came back on, I finished typing my comment hit submit, looked at the post and it was on the wrong thread. How is that possible?

-noeline

It's all a conspiracy Noeline

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Added to $500,000 in legal fees, tons of lost time in her witch hunts,total disruption of the county's business, and continuous allegations of wrong doing, the buy-out of $1,140,000 must bring the total cost of Cindy's campaign to over $2,000,000 in taxpayers' money.

It is no wonder that she now does not want the complete audit ! Clearly, the illusion of wrongdoing suits her purposes much better than the likelyhood that no wrongdoing will be found.

I propose this: Have the audit. If criminal wrong doing is uncovered, take the wrongdoer to court. If not, add the $1,000,000 cost of the audit to Cindy's ongoing waste of money and charge Cindy the $3,000,000 + that she has cost us. That's a huge price to the taxpayers, just because Cindy lost at Beaverdam.


-buster

What fairy tale world do you live in???
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Have the audit then maybe everyone can move on. Then we might be able to see if Preston Helped or hurt the County.

 A-Ventor your probably right it is a conspiracy or computer poltergists.

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Added to $500,000 in legal fees, tons of lost time in her witch hunts,total disruption of the county's business, and continuous allegations of wrong doing, the buy-out of $1,140,000 must bring the total cost of Cindy's campaign to over $2,000,000 in taxpayers' money.

It is no wonder that she now does not want the complete audit ! Clearly, the illusion of wrongdoing suits her purposes much better than the likelyhood that no wrongdoing will be found.

I propose this: Have the audit. If criminal wrong doing is uncovered, take the wrongdoer to court. If not, add the $1,000,000 cost of the audit to Cindy's ongoing waste of money and charge Cindy the $3,000,000 + that she has cost us. That's a huge price to the taxpayers, just because Cindy lost at Beaverdam.

-buster

I think you have it calculated right on the money. MCW turns out NOT to be the taxpayers friend. More will come out over time.

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They're here !

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The "Rick is right crowd" wanted an audit and the council voted for the audit. They wanted Mr Preston gone and he is gone. Whats next? Maybe Rick should put up the WAIM transmitters and title to the property as colateral for any more boondogels! Put your money where your mouth is! Who's the real water toter here? Sounds like Rick is carrying Cindy and Bobs.
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The "Rick is right crowd" wanted an audit and the council voted for the audit. They wanted Mr Preston gone and he is gone. Whats next? Maybe Rick should put up the WAIM transmitters and title to the property as colateral for any more boondogels! Put your money where your mouth is! Who's the real water toter here? Sounds like Rick is carrying Cindy and Bobs.

-kc5gpm



Kc5gpm,

Here's what WOULD have been next: Had the incoming council had their way, JRP would have been run out and likely tied up in court for years to come. In his absence, the plan was to have Jacky Hunter take the post of County Administrator. Why Jacky? Well, the position that Mr. Hunter occupies in the county is a significant one - a position mandated by (state) law. In the event that the office is vacated, the GOVERNOR can APPOINT a replacement to hold that office.

Enter Kevin Bryant, Governor Sanford, and Dan Harvell.

Sen. Bryant makes a call to Governor Sanford asking that Dan Harvell is appointed to fill the vacated position. Governor Sanford, noting the fact that Bryant is apart of that "Club for Growth Crowd" (Club for Growth Crowd - group of state lawmakers pushing the political agenda of both Governor Sanford and NY Real Estate Mogul Howard Rich) politically rewards Kevin with the appointment he seeks.

... and folks thought that by changing the incumbents out for the opposition, we'd somehow see real change. Ha!

Animal Farm should be required reading for people with voter registration cards.

So, in summary:

1.) The thunder of having an audit was "stolen" when the current council approved it.

2.) The thunder of crucifying JRP was "stolen" when the current council took action to ensure a smooth transition by resolving "bad blood" issues.

3.) The ability to appoint/promote "their folks" was "stolen" when the current council took action to find a replacement for JRP - a replacement that is the POLAR OPPOSITE of JRP.

In the end, the opposition got EXACTLY what they wanted (audit, removal of JRP, a calm, low-key, family man to replace JRP). They just didn't get to do it themselves ... and that is what has them so torqued.

Talk about childish.



- SSHM
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You have zip, nil, none, zero, nadda, facts to back up your conspiracy claim that there is/was a plan to make Jackie Hunter the administrator.

So, in summary.... This is all daydreaming based on your bias!

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JUST WAIT UNTIL THOSE LAW SUITES BEGIN AND SEE WHOM STARTS RUNNING AND HIDDING.
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You have zip, nil, none, zero, nadda, facts to back up your conspiracy claim that there is/was a plan to make Jackie Hunter the administrator.

So, in summary.... This is all daydreaming based on your bias!

-nomadron

To quote one Ricky Dribble ... "Well we don't know now, do we folks?" YellYellYell

Mmmmm .... medicine .... tasty stuff, I tell ya.

 

- SSHM

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To quote one Ricky Dribble ... "Well we don't know now, do we folks?" [image]
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Mmmmm .... medicine .... tasty stuff, I tell ya.

 

- SSHM


-sshm



What great moral victory was won here? What good do you think came out of over paying Preston when the Council members were told there was no legal reason to pay him off? Knowing there was no legal reason to buy him out, why do you think they did that? Was it from debts called in or something they didn't want to come out? It was not for the "good of the county". Only one person gained from this. Where if not from taxpayer money do you think the payoff is coming from? You don't know the difference between being robbed by liars, thieves, and cheaters and playing chess.

No matter how fat republikin may be, the fat lady that needs to sing is not on this blog and she needs to sige six times.
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No matter how fat republikin may be, the fat lady that needs to sing is not on this blog and she needs to sige six times.

-1-opinion

Are you trying to denigrate over-weight people? If you refer to republikin as "fat" please add -cat to it. I prefer to be know as a "Fat-cat." Although, I don't mind the "lady" reference. If I could just sing like her. Hmmmm.

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Let's answer each question individually, as it is funny to watch those that didn't see this coming QQ all over the place . . .

<br><br><br>What great moral victory was won here?

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I was not aware that honoring a contract either involved or required a moral victory. If anything, it involved adhering to the law, as written. As it has been said before, to be rid of Preston would involve buying him out. The current council did just what all of you JRP-haters wanted ... what you have wanted for 12 long years ... to be rid of him. So sorry (note the dripping sarcasm) it didn't happen on either your watch or your EXACT terms.

What good do you think came out of over paying Preston when the Council members were told there was no legal reason to pay him off?

-1-opinion



The assertion that JRP has been over paid is opinion, not fact. I will say that based on the amount paid, the odds of any additional legal action, outstanding lawsuits, etc, against Anderson County, would likely never come to pass. Then again, that's my opinion . . .

Knowing there was no legal reason to buy him out, why do you think they did that?

-1-opinion



Are you a lawyer? Can you be completely certain there was NOT a legal reason to buy him out? I didn't think so . . .

Was it from debts called in or something they didn't want to come out?

-1-opinion



Debts? Do your homework. There is a reason for the fact that Anderson County has an excellent bond rating ... and it's not from excessive debt, either? Governments do not receive bond ratings like some sort of rubber stamp. It's earned and demonstrated through sound fiscal management. Moody's deals in facts and not opinion and supposition like you and other do when determining what is sound fiscally.

It was not for the "good of the county". Only one person gained from this. Where if not from taxpayer money do you think the payoff is coming from?

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Only one person gained from this? I would have to argue that Mr. Cunningham has gained a promotion . . . I would have to argue that the county as a whole gained from the fact that the focus of the new council no longer has to be "what to do with JRP." If you are that blind and can't see that ... well ... I really can't help you.

You don't know the difference between being robbed by liars, thieves, and cheaters and playing chess.<br><br>No matter how fat republikin may be, the fat lady that needs to sing is not on this blog and she needs to sige six times.<br>

-1-opinion



Maybe ... but I do know a sore, uneducated loser when I meet one. You got exactly what you wanted ... yet you still whine and complain? I've never met such an ilk of people so unhappy with their place in life that the seek to bring everyone down around them, rather than pull themselves up.

... stupids ... and now whiners ... EVERYWHERE ...


- SSHM
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Let's answer each question individually, as it is funny to watch those that didn't see this coming QQ all over the place . . .



I was not aware that honoring a contract either involved or required a moral victory. If anything, it involved adhering to the law, as written. As it has been said before, to be rid of Preston would involve buying him out. The current council did just what all of you JRP-haters wanted ... what you have wanted for 12 long years ... to be rid of him. So sorry (note the dripping sarcasm) it didn't happen on either your watch or your EXACT terms.



The assertion that JRP has been over paid is opinion, not fact. I will say that based on the amount paid, the odds of any additional legal action, outstanding lawsuits, etc, against Anderson County, would likely never come to pass. Then again, that's my opinion . . .



Are you a lawyer? Can you be completely certain there was NOT a legal reason to buy him out? I didn't think so . . .

Responding to three "answers" in one paragraph: Having consulted two real (gasp)  attorney's the answer is no the contract did not have to be bought out and in fact the Council was told that by their own attorney, as R Wilson said, they chose to ignore it. Preston was over paid in that (a) it did not have to be paid at all (b) it was more than the minimum amount that they would have had to pay if there was a settlement agreement., it was a pay off.
If this were your money you would have said, see you in court. Matter of fact not only did the attorneys I spoke to say the contract did not need to be bought out, they responded to the questionable actions by the five Council members who participated in this action.

Debts? Do your homework. There is a reason for the fact that Anderson County has an excellent bond rating ... and it's not from excessive debt, either? Governments do not receive bond ratings like some sort of rubber stamp. It's earned and demonstrated through sound fiscal management. Moody's deals in facts and not opinion and supposition like you and other do when determining what is sound fiscally.


Debts? Not Anderson debts you silly mule, debts owned to the master puppeteer
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Only one person gained from this? I would have to argue that Mr. Cunningham has gained a promotion . . . I would have to argue that the county as a whole gained from the fact that the focus of the new council no longer has to be "what to do with JRP." If you are that blind and can't see that ... well ... I really can't help you.

Council is aware that the new Council has no legal obligation to have Cunningham rammed down their throats the way he was. In fact they were told by their attorney the Preston contract would in fact expire when the new Council was seated. That's why the rush. Cunningham's will as well. A reasonable action was to name him Interim and then allow the set procedures to hire him on a permanent basis. In fact at 125,000.00 he would have competition. I venture to say he will have competition. I feel sorry for him.

Maybe ... but I do know a sore, uneducated loser when I meet one. You got exactly what you wanted ... yet you still whine and complain? I've never met such an ilk of people so unhappy with their place in life that the seek to bring everyone down around them, rather than pull themselves up.

... stupids ... and now whiners ... EVERYWHERE ...

Talk about speculation ROTFL
- SSHM

-sshm

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SSHM, I really think you are wrong about Dan Harvell as the county auditor.  He has no background in finance and would have to give up a very successful and lucrative career in photography.  That just does not compute.
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