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It has been alleged that both Kuwait (Desert Storm) and the war in Iraq have been wars waged for oil gains by America. So for all of you that believe that, show the rest of us exactly how the US has gained from these wars? Have we controlled OPEC and their production or the rise and fall of the price of crude?

As a start to discovering the truth, read and research profits for these companies and tell us all how the US has gotten better deals than other countries and trace the profits back to the wars. No theory please just all the cold hard facts that can be verified.

Does anyone know if the US ever receive full compensation for the cost of liberating Kuwait?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_petroleum_companies
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It has been alleged that both Kuwait (Desert Storm) and the war in Iraq have been wars waged for oil gains by America. So for all of you that believe that, show the rest of us exactly how the US has gained from these wars? Have we controlled OPEC and their production or the rise and fall of the price of crude?As a start to discovering the truth, read and research profits for these companies and tell us all how the US has gotten better deals than other countries and trace the profits back to the wars. No theory please just all the cold hard facts that can be verified. Does anyone know if the US ever receive full compensation for the cost of liberating Kuwait? [url]

-1-opinion

We have as yet to receive anything, except high prices as to fill the pockets of George Bush, and his friends. They didn`t want any oil coming into the U.S., that would have lowered prices, and they couldn`t have had the enormous profits they have enjoyed for so long.This was an oil war, but to keep it scarce, not plentiful.

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I asked for facts. Show us your proof that Bush or any other politician received money based on either war. Not your opinion supported by your opinion; please use facts and figures? Are you up to your own challenge? How did they specifically and irrefutably gain form these actions? <G>
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I asked for facts. Show us your proof that Bush or any other politician received money based on either war. Not your opinion supported by your opinion; please use facts and figures? Are you up to your own challenge? How did they specifically and irrefutably gain form these actions? &lt;G&gt;

-1-opinion

Simple, look at the Oil Company`s profits, and then research how much, and to what republicans, these company`s were so generous with . Donations, gifts, trips, cars, homes, land, stock options, schooling for their kids, and much more if anyone cares enough to dig for the facts. And I believe it will be done after O`Bama takes office.

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Well you state the profits went up but in actuality the percentage of profits has not increased even marginally. You do the homework, you are making the case here. I can disprove your theory easily, you do not want to do the work to prove your point because you can not. "Because I said so" in not proof of an opinion. Can't do it huh?
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Well you state the profits went up but in actuality the percentage of profits has not increased even marginally. You do the homework, you are making the case here. I can disprove your theory easily, you do not want to do the work to prove your point because you can not. "Because I said so" in not proof of an opinion. Can't do it huh?

-1-opinion

I could have it done, but I think I`ll let our new President-Elect do it for me for free, after he takes over in 2009. I have more pressing matters right now. It seems that my father has a hitman coming after him within the week, from another forum, and I need to spend as much time with him as possible. According to this hitman he is going to eliminate my Dad so he won`t become the joke of the other forum. Alas Dear Old Dad, may be doomed.

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I could have it done, but I think I`ll let our new President-Elect do it for me for free, after he takes over in 2009. I have more pressing matters right now. It seems that my father has a hitman coming after him within the week, from another forum, and I need to spend as much time with him as possible. According to this hitman he is going to eliminate my Dad so he won`t become the joke of the other forum. Alas Dear Old Dad, may be doomed.

-honkeydonkey

What does that mean?

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Don't know, Ron. We're a moderated forum at ATZ. No hitmen allowed. Surprised

Honkeydonkey, tell your "Dad" not to bark at too many shadows. I can assure you, if there really is a hitman on the way, he wouldn't have a clue about it in advance. Wink

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What does that mean?

-nomadron

Just what it says can`t you read? If the hitman fails to carry out his hit on my Dad in one week, the hitman becomes the joke of the forum, because of the things he spewed today, and the comments he made. This hitman is known only as "dancingnasty", And I think Dad said his mouth was nastier than his dancing.

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I wouldn't worry too much about it, Honkeydonkey. Some blowhard over on Hankey's forum a few weeks ago threatened to come to Pickens and straighten me out - and I haven't seen him yet. Laughing
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, Honkeydonkey. Some blowhard over on Hankey's forum a few weeks ago threatened to come to Pickens and straighten me out - and I haven't seen him yet. [image]

-jdtippett

Don`t give up JD, you might turn around one day and look him square in the eyes, he likes to savor the action, and give people time to drop their guard. He doesn`t get in a hurry, sort of like a Rhino.

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That's what I thought, RINO. That's the second threat of the day you've targeted at other forum members. The first one was on another thread:

... And as far as looking for individual`s that the military kicked out, you better start looking at some in your Klan, my Dad knows of a couple that got less than honorable discharges. Want names, contact Rino over at Hankey's place.

-honkeydonkey

Your screen name is being suspended indefinitely as of now. Physical threats, either veiled or direct, and threats by forum members to reveal privileged or private information regarding other members are not allowed. This has nothing to do with opinions or politics. All viewpoints are allowed here as long as they are presented in a civil manner. But attempt to intimidate members with threatening statements will be addressed appropriately.

Those of you who continue these guessing games about who is who on Anderson Talkzone are also hereby informally warned to knock it off. Formal warnings will follow if it continues. Members who wish to reveal personal information about themselves are more than welcome to do so; however, nobody is allowed to reveal such information about another members without that member's consent.

Give RINO our regards, Honkeydonkey. You are both welcome to return once you learn the difference between cyberspace and real life, provided, of course, a majority of the moderators agree to allow your return.

                                                                                     - The Moderators

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I wouldn't worry JD. Someone over at Hankeys said this the other day...

"There haven`t been any real men born since the 1950`s. All I know born since then had rather look, and act like their mamma`s. "

I think it was honkeydonkey's dad. What year were you born honkeydonkey? Laughing

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I don't worry about it, Ron, but the kind of intimidation some posters use has a chilling effect on other members and cannot be allowed on a moderated forum. I had spoken to another of the moderators earlier today about that first threat (the one to reveal private military information), and we agreed.

Honkeydonkey just reinforced that conversation.

By the way, I was born in 1950. Even Momma doesn't like me some days. Frown

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I don't worry about it, Ron, but the kind of intimidation some posters used has a chilling effect on other members and cannot be allowed on a moderated forum. I had spoken to another of the moderators earlier today about that first threat (the one to reveal private information), and we agreed.

Honkeydonkey just reinforced that conversation.

By the way, I was born in 1950.


-jdtippett

Laughing 1946 for me! Laughing
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 Talk about an fool trying to supress fredom of speach.
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Nobody is trying to suppress freedom of speech, 1-opinion. I was as entertained by Wyatt and Honkeydonkey's misguided sock-puppet show about how horrible a country the United States is as anybody. But we will assure freedom FROM threatening behavior.
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I was not referring to you JD. I should have used the qote option.
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It has been alleged that both Kuwait (Desert Storm) and the war in Iraq have been wars waged for oil gains by America. So for all of you that believe that, show the rest of us exactly how the US has gained from these wars? Have we controlled OPEC and their production or the rise and fall of the price of crude?

As a start to discovering the truth, read and research profits for these companies and tell us all how the US has gotten better deals than other countries and trace the profits back to the wars. No theory please just all the cold hard facts that can be verified.

Does anyone know if the US ever receive full compensation for the cost of liberating Kuwait?

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-1-opinion


Let’s get this topic back on track.

The fact that always amazed me is that I have read many times that over 90% of our imported oil comes from our North American allies.

Assuming that is true, it seems ludicrous that we would purposely sacrifice American lives for less than 10% of our oil imports.

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Let’s get this topic back on track.The fact that always amazed me is that I have read many times that over 90% of our imported oil comes from our North American allies.Assuming that is true, it seems ludicrous that we would purposely sacrifice American lives for less than 10% of our oil imports.

-pappy

Can't we ban Pappy for his consistent, unfounded slander against our country and leaders?

He makes these allegations while riding his butt around in a gas powered vehicle. If you don't like the oil companies, walk!

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