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Here is how the election results will happen in ANDERSON COUNTY.

President---McCain (58-42)

US Senate--Graham (64-36)

US Congress--Barrett (64-36)

SC Senate 3--Bryant (56-44)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell (62-38)

SC House 8--Bowen (53-47)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (85-15)

County Council 2--Floyd (76-24)

Sales Tax referendum--rejected (65-35)


McCain will win SC, but lose the National election. Marshall Meadors negative campaign, along with aligning himself with Ron Wilson (who is on the Southern Poverty law Centers top 40 racists lists) killed a race that could have been much closer. Meadors obviously has a political neophyte running his campaign. What a bonehead!

Anyone want to put a friendly wager on any of my picks?


-yankeefan



The Insufficient Mail did a terrible job of election coverage, so I am having a little trouble verifying actual percentages of these races, but I know that every pick I made was correct.  The percentages on the Bowen/Dobbins race was spot on, and my Bryant/Meadors pick was spot on.

I think I was in my 3-4% margin of error on all of the others.

Now, I know that blowhards, repukelikin and Stupid will call the voters ignorant etc., but this was a referendum on the tax and spend liberals in Anderson County.  It was also a vote of CONFIDENCE for the new Council.

Bye STUPID (the name fits).
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Bottom line to me is this -- we have chosen our leaders in this nation for over 200 years and we are still here.   The presidential race did not turn out as I wished, but I truly hope and pray that Barak Obama will be a great President. And I feel the same way about our state and local leaders.  Time is over for sniping and whining.  Let's start working for the future.
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Awe Queen give Yankeefan at least a day. He/She was absolutely correct in his/her assumptions.

Especially on the bryant and bowen races. Good Call Yank!

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Well said Queen, as usual. And I want to add how proud I was that so many voters turned out not just here but nation wide. I poll watched most of the day and I really had no idea if the people coming in were voting for my candidate or not, and in fact most didn't, but I was so happy when I left to know that many people took the time to exercise their right to vote.
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All I can say is ditto to JD's post.
Oh also good call yankeefan

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As promised, it is that time folks . . .

SSHM's General Election Night Picks
(borrowing the format from stankieyankee)

President---McCain (54-46)

US Senate--Graham (62-38)

US Congress--Barrett (66-34)

SC Senate 3--Meadors (51-49)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell (56-44)

SC House 8--Dobbins (62-38)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (80-20)

County Council 2--Floyd (80-20)

CPST--passes (52-48)

As you can see, the numbers are not off by that much for many of the races. The exceptions, of course, in BOLD. So why did I wait to post these numbers so late in the day today? Simple really:

1.) It's late in the day. Most folks have voted. The die has been cast and the course has been set. No changing things now.

2.) Sharing this information early is akin to showing your hand to your opponent too early.

With that in mind, shall we explain some of the numbers?

Meadors' victory will come from an extremely strong and traditionally very democratic Pendleton base. Couple that with democratic resentment over the loss of McAbee and Crenshaw, and you have an very angry electorate that is highly motivated to vote STRONG (D). Combine that with a solid base in and around the City of Anderson, Meadors now has two of the three legs secured. The third leg - Powdersville - is traditionally an ultra-conservative area. An area thought to be STRONGLY in Bryant's back pocket. To quote Lee Corso, NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND - Meadors has made strong inroads into Powdersville and will likely have a strong showing.

With the City and Pendleton secured, Meadors only needs a strong showing and not a win in Powdersville (even though a win is likely).

The no-no, Yankee, is having a SITTING STATE SENATOR get involved in LOCAL County Council races. It will cost him in a close one.

Dobbins' victory is ... well ... a major blow-out and a major loss to the SC Club for Growth/Howard Rich crowd. Dr. Dobbins is a good individual who has run a clean campaign - a campaign that resonates well with the electorate. Speaking of political advisors willieh, don't you find it ironic that you and others were CRITICAL of McAbee when he ran with campaign material pointing out Allen as a individual who votes for tax increases (by way of the school board) . . . ironic that you use the same tactic to attempt to smear Dr. Dobbins (in ads sponsored by the ACRP)?

It didn't work then ... it's not going to work now. What is that old saying ... oh yes ... imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Then we have O'Dell . . . who is glad that the ACRP nut-jobs didn't run someone against him in the primary. Thanks to that inaction by the ACRP, O'Dell will win, but will win a much closer race than many expect. The strong (D) turn out, combined with voters from Abbeville and Greenwood will aid Ortiz in getting those larger numbers. Senate District 4, as a reminder, covers three counties.

Finally we reach the CPST. In a squeaker, this will pass. Why? Too much public input and too little public outcry against it. The CAVE and Team Mobile Billboard (Dan "I look like John Kerry" Harvel, et al) have put up quite a bit of noise. However, that noise is set against the backdrop of PUBLIC INPUT and PARTICIPATION that helped shape this sales tax. The down economy is the only factor in making this one a close one. If the market had not soured, you would see a 2:1 margin in favor of CPST.

So, for those keeping score at home:

1.) Bryant goes back to being a full-time pill-pusher.

2.) Meadors makes rounds at both AnMed and the Senate Cloak Room.

3.) O'Dell does not have to pack up his office in Columbia - yet.

4.) Ortiz will continue to dispense advice and be a good steward of the community.

5.) Dobbins will still get his Ice Cream from Hendrix and, if you're nice, share with his fellow House colleagues.

6.) Bowen will return home and wonder why salsa can't come from New York City (like Howard Rich).

7.) Team Mobile Billboard will have to come up with yet another ANTI-ANDERSON slogan.

8.) CPST will, as promised, fix our roads and share the burden with everyone (especially those that don't own property).

9.) Anti-incumbency also still applies at the GENERAL ELECTION.

10.) Mister Rodgers Neighborhood might have to hold a super-secret censure meeting after the results from this evening come in. In fact, Mister Rodgers may have to worry about eviction for failing to deliver - hehe.

So we shall see who is right . . . [image]

- SSHM

-sshm

looks like you were WRONG, Stupid! Mr. Rogers is fine. Censure? You betcha! Guess who gets the ax this time. I'll let you guess. I'll let you know if you are right or not. You will probably be wrong (like on all of the bold races).

This race yesterday, proved that June 10th and 24th was just the beginning of conservative governing here in Anderson County. You will see this start to resonate across the state and across the country. We will be slow and take the conservative cause to the country. We will find our way again!

Stupid, you think you are smart and in the know. You are neither. You proved it in June and now again in November. Please don't tell me you believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

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The Insufficient Mail did a terrible job of election coverage, so I am having a little trouble verifying actual percentages of these races, but I know that every pick I made was correct. The percentages on the Bowen/Dobbins race was spot on, and my Bryant/Meadors pick was spot on.I think I was in my 3-4% margin of error on all of the others.Now, I know that blowhards, repukelikin and Stupid will call the voters ignorant etc., but this was a referendum on the tax and spend liberals in Anderson County. It was also a vote of CONFIDENCE for the new Council.Bye STUPID (the name fits).

-yankeefan

I never called "voters ignorant." I do think YOU are. How many times have YOU and your like made fun of Gracie Floyd? Look in the mirror if you wnat to see the image of "ignorant." Enjoy the short ride that today begins. In time good prevails.

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looks like you were WRONG, Stupid! Mr. Rogers is fine. Censure? You betcha! Guess who gets the ax this time. I'll let you guess. I'll let you know if you are right or not. You will probably be wrong (like on all of the bold races).

This race yesterday, proved that June 10th and 24th was just the beginning of conservative governing here in Anderson County. You will see this start to resonate across the state and across the country. We will be slow and take the conservative cause to the country. We will find our way again!

Stupid, you think you are smart and in the know. You are neither. You proved it in June and now again in November. Please don't tell me you believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

-willieh

What now? There is NO Santa and No Easter Bunny?

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Awe Queen give Yankeefan at least a day. He/She was absolutely correct in his/her assumptions.

Especially on the bryant and bowen races. Good Call Yank!

-willieh

Credit for what? Who couldn't figure out that Bryant and Bowen would win in a County where 6 or 7 out of 10 vote Republican? Let's not blow yankeeban's ego higher than it is already. He loves the sound of his own voice as he threatens, intimidates and insults. Don't encourage him.

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Hey guys the election is over, yankee did a good job of predicting how things would go. I would also like to echo Queens words come January we will have a new president. So lets give him our support. I could say more but for today lets just celebrate that we had such a successful election.

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Hey guys the election is over, yankee did a good job of predicting how things would go. I would also like to echo Queens words come January we will have a new president. So lets give him our support. I could say more but for today lets just celebrate that we had such a successful election.


-noeline

Thanks you!  I did my homework.
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Credit for what? Who couldn't figure out that Bryant and Bowen would win in a County where 6 or 7 out of 10 vote Republican? Let's not blow yankeeban's ego higher than it is already. He loves the sound of his own voice as he threatens, intimidates and insults. Don't encourage him.


-republikin



You were the one saying that Bryant and Bowen would lose.  When I type, I can't hear my own voice.  I never threaten, and I try not to intimidate.  I do insult, and don't need encouragement.  If anything the ignorance that you espouse encourage me enough. 

Do you know how much Meadors spent?  about $250,000.00.  For what, 44%, just 7% higher than Mike Mullinax, who probably spent $10,000.  That's a lot of money for 7%.
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I never called "voters ignorant." I do think YOU are. How many times have YOU and your like made fun of Gracie Floyd? Look in the mirror if you wnat to see the image of "ignorant." Enjoy the short ride that today begins. In time good prevails.


-republikin

I said you would call them ignorant for not following your lead.  Thanks for not calling them ignorant.  Call me what you want but I was right. 

Gracie Floyd is ignorant.  You were at most of the meetings when she was chairman.  Did you not pay attention?

I did look in the mirror today.  You know what I saw?  VICTORY!  It looked good and smelled great!

Good prevailed yesterday and in June.  As long as the new guys do what they were elected to do, it will be a long ride.  Your credibility as someone who knows politics is gone.  Yours was a short ride.  Tell Bill hello.
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You were the one saying that Bryant and Bowen would lose. When I type, I can't hear my own voice. I never threaten, and I try not to intimidate. I do insult, and don't need encouragement. If anything the ignorance that you espouse encourage me enough. Do you know how much Meadors spent? about $250,000.00. For what, 44%, just 7% higher than Mike Mullinax, who probably spent $10,000. That's a lot of money for 7%.

-yankeefan

I never predicted Bryant or Bowen would lose. Did I hope for that? Yes. Despite being a Republican all my adult life, I don't believe they represent out best values. I don't agree with Obama either. But, what I see here locally is all hatred and power seeking. That isn't good.

What's the big deal about money spent? It wasn't your money, or mine. People can spend their money on what they choose. Isn't that the conservative view?
When Kevin first won, money flowed in from out of the area, out of state. Did we have any problem with that?

I'm encouraged that you are beginning to listen to yourself. There is hope. Opps, that's Obama's speech.

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I never predicted Bryant or Bowen would lose. Did I hope for that? Yes. Despite being a Republican all my adult life, I don't believe they represent out best values. I don't agree with Obama either. But, what I see here locally is all hatred and power seeking. That isn't good.

What's the big deal about money spent? It wasn't your money, or mine. People can spend their money on what they choose. Isn't that the conservative view?
When Kevin first won, money flowed in from out of the area, out of state. Did we have any problem with that?

I'm encouraged that you are beginning to listen to yourself. There is hope. Opps, that's Obama's speech.

-republikin

I think you missed the point of Yankeefan's post. You usually do. He says that Meadors spent all that money for 7%. That is actually a pathetic return on investment. Especially in a year that was bad for Republicans. I would say being a republican probably hurt Bryant 3-5%. So really the money only garnered Meadors 2-4%. Yankeefan, you should have thought of this, when you made your analysis.

You mention hatred and power seeking. A lot of us see that leaving office, not coming in. Where's the hate? Because someone wants to be a "friend of the taxpayer" doesn't mean they hate or seek power.

This new council will give power to the people. I am excited about seeing what they will do for us.

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Willie your math is fuzzy. It was a bad year for republicans nationally, not locally. Look at the numbers, McCain carried Anderson County hands down, I don't have the stats in front of me or the time to look them up, but I can give you the example of at the precinct I was at McCain got 250 votes to Obama's 50 while Bryant got 200 to Meadors 110. That's a lot of crossover voters and it's pretty representative of what happened county wide. So yes, Meadors lost, but a lot of republicans took the time to vote for him, which says a lot in a republican stronghold like Anderson County.
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I think you missed the point of Yankeefan's post. You usually do. He says that Meadors spent all that money for 7%. That is actually a pathetic return on investment. Especially in a year that was bad for Republicans. I would say being a republican probably hurt Bryant 3-5%. So really the money only garnered Meadors 2-4%. Yankeefan, you should have thought of this, when you made your analysis.

You mention hatred and power seeking. A lot of us see that leaving office, not coming in. Where's the hate? Because someone wants to be a "friend of the taxpayer" doesn't mean they hate or seek power.

This new council will give power to the people. I am excited about seeing what they will do for us.

-willieh

More like what they will do to us, more specifically, to the future of Anderson County. You get what you pay for.

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Willie your math is fuzzy. It was a bad year for republicans nationally, not locally. Look at the numbers, McCain carried Anderson County hands down, I don't have the stats in front of me or the time to look them up, but I can give you the example of at the precinct I was at McCain got 250 votes to Obama's 50 while Bryant got 200 to Meadors 110. That's a lot of crossover voters and it's pretty representative of what happened county wide. So yes, Meadors lost, but a lot of republicans took the time to vote for him, which says a lot in a republican stronghold like Anderson County.

-blogger

That's way too much logic for yankeeban to decipher.

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That's OK, I actually give Kevin Bryant a lot more credit than most people realize and I believe he will see the numbers and realize that even though he won there are a lot of people who are not happy with his policies.

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That's OK, I actually give Kevin Bryant a lot more credit than most people realize and I believe he will see the numbers and realize that even though he won there are a lot of people who are not happy with his policies.

-blogger

I hope so too. I'm not counting on it. His eminence will be all the more
unbearable and self-righteous, emboldend by re-election, no matter the percentage of votes. We'll see much the same from Don Bowen.

But, we move on.

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