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Here is how the election results will happen in ANDERSON COUNTY

President---McCain  (58-42)

US Senate--Graham  (64-36)

US Congress--Barrett  (64-36)

SC Senate 3--Bryant  (56-44)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell  (62-38)

SC House 8--Bowen (53-47)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (85-15)

County Council 2--Floyd (76-24)

Sales Tax referendum--rejected (65-35)


McCain will win SC, but lose the National election.  Marshall Meadors negative campaign, along with aligning himself with Ron Wilson (who is on the Southern Poverty law Centers top 40 racists lists) killed a race that could have been much closer.  Meadors obviously has a political neophyte running his campaign.  What a bonehead!

Anyone want to put a friendly wager on any of my picks?

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Though not necessarily disagreeing with your ultimate winners, I think the margin will be closer. Some wont be determined til late in the evening.

You underestimate the amount of new voters that will vote straight Democratic. It is highly unlikely that the Republican ticket will create any significant new voters, so you can take the last election's results, and essentially carry them forward for the republican totals...but will have to add a lot to the Democratic totals. Your math essentially carries the totals from the last election into this election.

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No, I took it into account.  go back and look at last times election.  I may be wrong on O'Dell's %, but his opponent is a nut.  But the dems have proven to vote for nuts before.  Just look at Council #2, they lose regardless of who they choose.  But Gracie kills Holder.
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Here is how the election results will happen in ANDERSON COUNTY.

President---McCain (58-42)

US Senate--Graham (64-36)

US Congress--Barrett (64-36)

SC Senate 3--Bryant (56-44)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell (62-38)

SC House 8--Bowen (53-47)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (85-15)

County Council 2--Floyd (76-24)

Sales Tax referendum--rejected (65-35)


McCain will win SC, but lose the National election. Marshall Meadors negative campaign, along with aligning himself with Ron Wilson (who is on the Southern Poverty law Centers top 40 racists lists) killed a race that could have been much closer. Meadors obviously has a political neophyte running his campaign. What a bonehead!

Anyone want to put a friendly wager on any of my picks?

-yankeefan



This makes me chuckle. You've posted the results for Anderson County. You do realize that Senate District 4 covers THREE Counties (Anderson, Abbeville, and Greenwood) and not just Anderson, right? You do realize that the politcs of Abbeville and Greenwood (especially) are very different from politics here in Anderson? Needless to say, Ortiz will be MUCH closer that many folks give him credit for. A win? It's a long-shot, but based on the number of NEW voters that will vote straight ticket ... it IS possible.

Speaking of Southern Poverty Law Center and RACISTS, KOOKS, and MOON-BATS, it's really funny what the SPLC had to say about 'ole Rickey Dribble and HIS listerners. Read the article here:

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=264

Tomorrow evening . . . the CAVE will realize that June 10th was just a phyrric victory. Have fun with CC ... the adults have moved onto bigger and better things.


... stupid ...


- SSHM

PS - I'll call you on your numbers tomorrow stankieyankee. Because you're WAY off on a few of your races . . .
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This makes me chuckle. You've posted the results for Anderson County. You do realize that Senate District 4 covers THREE Counties (Anderson, Abbeville, and Greenwood) and not just Anderson, right? You do realize that the politcs of Abbeville and Greenwood (especially) are very different from politics here in Anderson? Needless to say, Ortiz will be MUCH closer that many folks give him credit for. A win? It's a long-shot, but based on the number of NEW voters that will vote straight ticket ... it IS possible.

Speaking of Southern Poverty Law Center and RACISTS, KOOKS, and MOON-BATS, it's really funny what the SPLC had to say about 'ole Rickey Dribble and HIS listerners. Read the article here:

[url]

Tomorrow evening . . . the CAVE will realize that June 10th was just a phyrric victory. Have fun with CC ... the adults have moved onto bigger and better things.


... stupid ...


- SSHM

PS - I'll call you on your numbers tomorrow stankieyankee. Because you're WAY off on a few of your races . . .

-sshm



You are correct, Studid.  O'dell has voters in Abbeville and Greenwood.  That's why I said "ANDERSON" County.  He does have a very conservative Greenwood base though.  I'll stick with my numbers as a "district" wide number for him, as well.  Captain Caveman is a nut and even democrats are reluctant, in most cases, to vote for someone like him.  Gracie is an exception.

Did you forget that Don Bowen's District has some of Oconee county?  It does and that will break the same way.

I'm calling you out, Stupid.  Make your predictions today!  It will be easier after the election.  I put mine out there.  Go ahead, make a fool of yourself (again).  You did a great job of it in June. 

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What a great challenge. I will agree with your list of winners. I haven't done the homework on percentages but I am betting you have.


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What a great challenge. I will agree with your list of winners. I haven't done the homework on percentages but I am betting you have.



-1-opinion



you betcha.  I have done my homework.  I took into account that this is a crappy year to be running as a Republican.  I also took into consideration that it is a crappy time to be Marshall Meadors and Tom Dobbins.  Both have advocated for public education, but neither have come up with a plan to fix it.  It seems that they both want to continue the same failed system that has been in place for years.  It just doesn't work.

I could go on, but take my word for it.  The above numbers will be close to the real numbers.

I probably need to say that there should be a 3% margin of error.  But all of the above will win, the percentages may be slightly off.
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While I agree with your post, yankeefan, I must say that the McCain/Palin ticket is working hard and don't count them out.

I don't think McCain has a problem here is SC, but it will be close nationally.

I think you are correct in that it is a bad time to be running as a republican. But it is the republicans fault for it being this way. If Meadors and Dobbins had some good political advisors, they would have faired much better tomorrow then they ultimately will. Both probably would still have lost, but they would have made it a much better race. Their mistakes were sophomoric at best.

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Unfortunately yankee I agree with you McCain might definitly lose, however the fact that there are still so many undecided makes me think McCain still has a chance, especially when I find out so many of the polls taken were heavily or should I say heavier on the democrate side. So if you don't want the government taking over your life even more than it is now, remember my quote below and vote for McCain/Palin

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” William Pitt

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As promised, it is that time folks . . .

SSHM's General Election Night Picks
(borrowing the format from stankieyankee)

President---McCain  (54-46)

US Senate--Graham  (62-38)

US Congress--Barrett  (66-34)

SC Senate 3--Meadors  (51-49)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell  (56-44)

SC House 8--Dobbins (62-38)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (80-20)

County Council 2--Floyd (80-20)

CPST--passes (52-48)

As you can see, the numbers are not off by that much for many of the races. The exceptions, of course, in BOLD. So why did I wait to post these numbers so late in the day today? Simple really:

1.) It's late in the day. Most folks have voted. The die has been cast and the course has been set. No changing things now.

2.) Sharing this information early is akin to showing your hand to your opponent too early.

With that in mind, shall we explain some of the numbers?

Meadors' victory will come from an extremely strong and traditionally very democratic Pendleton base. Couple that with democratic resentment over the loss of McAbee and Crenshaw, and you have an very angry electorate that is highly motivated to vote STRONG (D). Combine that with a solid base in and around the City of Anderson, Meadors now has two of the three legs secured. The third leg - Powdersville - is traditionally an ultra-conservative area. An area thought to be STRONGLY in Bryant's back pocket. To quote Lee Corso, NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND - Meadors has made strong inroads into Powdersville and will likely have a strong showing.

With the City and Pendleton secured, Meadors only needs a strong showing and not a win in Powdersville (even though a win is likely).

The no-no, Yankee, is having a SITTING STATE SENATOR get involved in LOCAL County Council races. It will cost him in a close one.

Dobbins' victory is ... well ... a major blow-out and a major loss to the SC Club for Growth/Howard Rich crowd. Dr. Dobbins is a good individual who has run a clean campaign - a campaign that resonates well with the electorate. Speaking of political advisors willieh, don't you find it ironic that you and others were CRITICAL of McAbee when he ran with campaign material pointing out Allen as a individual who votes for tax increases (by way of the school board) . . . ironic that you use the same tactic to attempt to smear Dr. Dobbins (in ads sponsored by the ACRP)?

It didn't work then ... it's not going to work now. What is that old saying ... oh yes ... imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Then we have O'Dell . . . who is glad that the ACRP nut-jobs didn't run someone against him in the primary. Thanks to that inaction by the ACRP, O'Dell will win, but will win a much closer race than many expect. The strong (D) turn out, combined with voters from Abbeville and Greenwood will aid Ortiz in getting those larger numbers. Senate District 4, as a reminder, covers three counties.

Finally we reach the CPST. In a squeaker, this will pass. Why? Too much public input and too little public outcry against it. The CAVE and Team Mobile Billboard (Dan "I look like John Kerry" Harvel, et al) have put up quite a bit of noise. However, that noise is set against the backdrop of PUBLIC INPUT and PARTICIPATION that helped shape this sales tax. The down economy is the only factor in making this one a close one. If the market had not soured, you would see a 2:1 margin in favor of CPST.

So, for those keeping score at home:

1.) Bryant goes back to being a full-time pill-pusher.

2.) Meadors makes rounds at both AnMed and the Senate Cloak Room.

3.) O'Dell does not have to pack up his office in Columbia - yet.

4.) Ortiz will continue to dispense advice and be a good steward of the community.

5.) Dobbins will still get his Ice Cream from Hendrix and, if you're nice, share with his fellow House colleagues.

6.) Bowen will return home and wonder why salsa can't come from New York City (like Howard Rich).

7.) Team Mobile Billboard will have to come up with yet another ANTI-ANDERSON slogan.

8.) CPST will, as promised, fix our roads and share the burden with everyone (especially those that don't own property).

9.) Anti-incumbency also still applies at the GENERAL ELECTION.

10.) Mister Rodgers Neighborhood might have to hold a super-secret censure meeting after the results from this evening come in. In fact, Mister Rodgers may have to worry about eviction for failing to deliver - hehe.


So we shall see who is right . . . Cool


- SSHM
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As promised, it is that time folks . . .SSHM's General Election Night Picks(borrowing the format from stankieyankee)President---McCain (54-46)US Senate--Graham (62-38)US Congress--Barrett (66-34)SC Senate 3--Meadors (51-49)SC Senate 4--O'Dell (56-44)SC House 8--Dobbins (62-38)SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)Sheriff--John Skipper (80-20)County Council 2--Floyd (80-20)CPST--passes (52-48)As you can see, the numbers are not off by that much for many of the races. The exceptions, of course, in BOLD. So why did I wait to post these numbers so late in the day today? Simple really:1.) It's late in the day. Most folks have voted. The die has been cast and the course has been set. No changing things now.2.) Sharing this information early is akin to showing your hand to your opponent too early.With that in mind, shall we explain some of the numbers?Meadors' victory will come from an extremely strong and traditionally very democratic Pendleton base. Couple that with democratic resentment over the loss of McAbee and Crenshaw, and you have an very angry electorate that is highly motivated to vote STRONG (D). Combine that with a solid base in and around the City of Anderson, Meadors now has two of the three legs secured. The third leg - Powdersville - is traditionally an ultra-conservative area. An area thought to be STRONGLY in Bryant's back pocket. To quote Lee Corso, NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND - Meadors has made strong inroads into Powdersville and will likely have a strong showing.With the City and Pendleton secured, Meadors only needs a strong showing and not a win in Powdersville (even though a win is likely).The no-no, Yankee, is having a SITTING STATE SENATOR get involved in LOCAL County Council races. It will cost him in a close one.Dobbins' victory is ... well ... a major blow-out and a major loss to the SC Club for Growth/Howard Rich crowd. Dr. Dobbins is a good individual who has run a clean campaign - a campaign that resonates well with the electorate. Speaking of political advisors willieh, don't you find it ironic that you and others were CRITICAL of McAbee when he ran with campaign material pointing out Allen as a individual who votes for tax increases (by way of the school board) . . . ironic that you use the same tactic to attempt to smear Dr. Dobbins (in ads sponsored by the ACRP)?It didn't work then ... it's not going to work now. What is that old saying ... oh yes ... imitation is the highest form of flattery.Then we have O'Dell . . . who is glad that the ACRP nut-jobs didn't run someone against him in the primary. Thanks to that inaction by the ACRP, O'Dell will win, but will win a much closer race than many expect. The strong (D) turn out, combined with voters from Abbeville and Greenwood will aid Ortiz in getting those larger numbers. Senate District 4, as a reminder, covers three counties.Finally we reach the CPST. In a squeaker, this will pass. Why? Too much public input and too little public outcry against it. The CAVE and Team Mobile Billboard (Dan "I look like John Kerry" Harvel, et al) have put up quite a bit of noise. However, that noise is set against the backdrop of PUBLIC INPUT and PARTICIPATION that helped shape this sales tax. The down economy is the only factor in making this one a close one. If the market had not soured, you would see a 2:1 margin in favor of CPST.So, for those keeping score at home:1.) Bryant goes back to being a full-time pill-pusher.2.) Meadors makes rounds at both AnMed and the Senate Cloak Room.3.) O'Dell does not have to pack up his office in Columbia - yet.4.) Ortiz will continue to dispense advice and be a good steward of the community.5.) Dobbins will still get his Ice Cream from Hendrix and, if you're nice, share with his fellow House colleagues.6.) Bowen will return home and wonder why salsa can't come from New York City (like Howard Rich).7.) Team Mobile Billboard will have to come up with yet another ANTI-ANDERSON slogan.8.) CPST will, as promised, fix our roads and share the burden with everyone (especially those that don't own property).9.) Anti-incumbency also still applies at the GENERAL ELECTION.10.) Mister Rodgers Neighborhood might have to hold a super-secret censure meeting after the results from this evening come in. In fact, Mister Rodgers may have to worry about eviction for failing to deliver - hehe.So we shall see who is right . . . [image]
- SSHM

-sshm

I like the way you think. See you at the Civic Center later?

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I am so nervous!!

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Oh, don't be nervous, Virginia. We survived four years of Jimmy Carter. Surely, four years of Barack Obama can't hurt us any worse.

Like Carter, I'm sure Obama will know exactly what to do when American interests overseas are threatened by Islamic radicals in places like Iraq and Iran and ... Hmmmm. OMG! Surprised

I am so nervous. Sealed

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Hardy har JD ;) I must admit that even I chucked at your 6:00 Republican joke.

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The sales tax seems to going down big time! What say you SSHM? Laughing
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The sales tax seems to going down big time! What say you SSHM? [image]

-nomadron

I say that after tonight, all we'll have to blog about is Joey Preston. From all indications, that story line will play out before January 1.

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Too bad, it was modeled after York which worked. Can;'t help that the people have no trust the money would be spent as allocated. I guess that is a left over for the last Council and the level of trust in spending.

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"I say that after tonight, all we'll have to blog about is Joey Preston. From all indications, that story line will play out before January 1."

Hopefully we can also discuss the first African American president of the United States!

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130 posts

As promised, it is that time folks . . .

SSHM's General Election Night Picks
(borrowing the format from stankieyankee)

President---McCain (54-46)

US Senate--Graham (62-38)

US Congress--Barrett (66-34)

SC Senate 3--Meadors (51-49)

SC Senate 4--O'Dell (56-44)

SC House 8--Dobbins (62-38)

SC House 10--Gambrell (65-35)

Sheriff--John Skipper (80-20)

County Council 2--Floyd (80-20)

CPST--passes (52-48)

As you can see, the numbers are not off by that much for many of the races. The exceptions, of course, in BOLD. So why did I wait to post these numbers so late in the day today? Simple really:

1.) It's late in the day. Most folks have voted. The die has been cast and the course has been set. No changing things now.

2.) Sharing this information early is akin to showing your hand to your opponent too early.

With that in mind, shall we explain some of the numbers?

Meadors' victory will come from an extremely strong and traditionally very democratic Pendleton base. Couple that with democratic resentment over the loss of McAbee and Crenshaw, and you have an very angry electorate that is highly motivated to vote STRONG (D). Combine that with a solid base in and around the City of Anderson, Meadors now has two of the three legs secured. The third leg - Powdersville - is traditionally an ultra-conservative area. An area thought to be STRONGLY in Bryant's back pocket. To quote Lee Corso, NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND - Meadors has made strong inroads into Powdersville and will likely have a strong showing.

With the City and Pendleton secured, Meadors only needs a strong showing and not a win in Powdersville (even though a win is likely).

The no-no, Yankee, is having a SITTING STATE SENATOR get involved in LOCAL County Council races. It will cost him in a close one.

Dobbins' victory is ... well ... a major blow-out and a major loss to the SC Club for Growth/Howard Rich crowd. Dr. Dobbins is a good individual who has run a clean campaign - a campaign that resonates well with the electorate. Speaking of political advisors willieh, don't you find it ironic that you and others were CRITICAL of McAbee when he ran with campaign material pointing out Allen as a individual who votes for tax increases (by way of the school board) . . . ironic that you use the same tactic to attempt to smear Dr. Dobbins (in ads sponsored by the ACRP)?

It didn't work then ... it's not going to work now. What is that old saying ... oh yes ... imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Then we have O'Dell . . . who is glad that the ACRP nut-jobs didn't run someone against him in the primary. Thanks to that inaction by the ACRP, O'Dell will win, but will win a much closer race than many expect. The strong (D) turn out, combined with voters from Abbeville and Greenwood will aid Ortiz in getting those larger numbers. Senate District 4, as a reminder, covers three counties.

Finally we reach the CPST. In a squeaker, this will pass. Why? Too much public input and too little public outcry against it. The CAVE and Team Mobile Billboard (Dan "I look like John Kerry" Harvel, et al) have put up quite a bit of noise. However, that noise is set against the backdrop of PUBLIC INPUT and PARTICIPATION that helped shape this sales tax. The down economy is the only factor in making this one a close one. If the market had not soured, you would see a 2:1 margin in favor of CPST.

So, for those keeping score at home:

1.) Bryant goes back to being a full-time pill-pusher.

2.) Meadors makes rounds at both AnMed and the Senate Cloak Room.

3.) O'Dell does not have to pack up his office in Columbia - yet.

4.) Ortiz will continue to dispense advice and be a good steward of the community.

5.) Dobbins will still get his Ice Cream from Hendrix and, if you're nice, share with his fellow House colleagues.

6.) Bowen will return home and wonder why salsa can't come from New York City (like Howard Rich).

7.) Team Mobile Billboard will have to come up with yet another ANTI-ANDERSON slogan.

8.) CPST will, as promised, fix our roads and share the burden with everyone (especially those that don't own property).

9.) Anti-incumbency also still applies at the GENERAL ELECTION.

10.) Mister Rodgers Neighborhood might have to hold a super-secret censure meeting after the results from this evening come in. In fact, Mister Rodgers may have to worry about eviction for failing to deliver - hehe.


So we shall see who is right . . . [image]



- SSHM

-sshm



IDIOT!  Please, in 4 years support Obama.  Maybe we will have a chance. 

You lost Meadors, Dobbins, and the CPST.  Even a caveman could have picked the others.  What were you thinking?

I know you have a headache, maybe repukelikin can give you some ADVIL.

Looks like I was Right!
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I like the way you think. See you at the Civic Center later?


-republikin



Hmmmm...   Bad night, huh?  Just like in June?  No Meadors, No Dobbins.
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