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Stunner of a headline this afternoon on the AIM website:

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2008/oct/17/has-joey-preston-resigned/

Seems County Council is in the process of figuring it out as we speak.

Just to get the debate started, ol' JD said several times before and after June 10 that he thinks Joey Preston's critics are in danger of overplaying their hand, especially when they started talking about suspending him and the Finance Director after the first of the year during the proposed "forensic" audit.

My personal feeling is that JP has just called their bluff. Now, let's see how the hand plays out. Wink

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Stunner of a headline this afternoon on the AIM website:

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Seems County Council is in the process of figuring it out as we speak.

Just to get the debate started, ol' JD said several times before and after June 10 that he thinks Joey Preston's critics are in danger of overplaying their hand, especially when they started talking about suspending him and the Finance Director after the first of the year during the proposed "forensic" audit.

My personal feeling is that JP has just called their bluff. Now, let's see how the hand plays out. [image]


-jdtippett



Okay, out with it...what is "John T. Hendricks vs. Pickens County Council"?
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Hmmm,  WYATT wonders aloud if THIS is why, during last meeting, a independent attorney was hired by members of council to defend Anderson County  for a matter deemed "personal in nature"???

And here we were, worried about the cost of the forensic audit, when indeed this wrongful termination case would cost millions.....not to mention the embarrassment to Anderson!

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Hmmm. JDTippett wonders aloud if Wyatt may be on to something with those thoughts. Sounds plausible.

Stringcheese, John T. (Tom) Hendricks was Pickens County Administrator from 1989-1999 (and later Oconee County Administrator.) On Labor Day Weekend, 1999, he cleared out his office and addressed a letter to Pickens County Council regarding what amounted to an "anticipatory breach of contract" and simultaneously filed a lawsuit against Council. (Sound familiar?)

Hendricks was on very sound legal footing -  on the surface, far sounder than JP's unless Anderson County Council has already taken some affirmative action to breach his contract that we are unaware of.

Then-Pickens Council Chairman Bob Nash has already negotiated with - and, actually, signed a contract with - a fellow named Eugene Klugh to serve as "interim administrator" while Council sought a replacement for Hendricks (Nash alleged the entire Council was aware of his actions; they weren't.) After Hendricks left, Council went through a process and ultimately selected Alan Ours as the new administrator.

A jury eventually heard Hendricks' lawsuit. He won, was awarded damages and had his reputation restored despite Nash's deceitful efforts to ruin it.

There may be far more to any legal action Preston may take - and, keep in mind, right now all we have is an AIM story that leaves a lot of questions unanswered. We have no idea, for instance, what has been going behind the scenes to lead him to believe his contract has been, or is about to be, breached.

Be afraid, Anderson County taxpayers, be very, very afraid. Wink.

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One of the first thing a fighter (Boxing) learns is not to telepath his punches. One who does never gets a knockout.

Maybe some council members have done exactly that. Telepathed their punches and have been countered.

Even a fake can cost millions if it hinders a man at his work! Wink

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I for one happen to like & respect Mr.Preston. For those who say that he has not done anything for Anderson County,you need to REALLY look into the things he has done. I have met Joey several times and he is a very nice person to talk to. I think certain members on the current and upcoming council hate the idea that there is someone who will not be bullied or blackmailed into their narrowminded thinking. If Joey preston leaves this county we will be in trouble. Do you really think anyone who has a brain would want his position? I wouldnt not even for the pay,the only way I would take it is if Cindy Wilson LEAVES & takes her puppet with her!!!!! Oh thats right sjhe may have to leave after her meeting with the ethics commitee next monthFoot in mouth She has caused more problems for Anderson County along with the tin foil people. I am so sick of people looking for a problem thats not there..
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Mr Preston is most likely going to sue the ENTIRE Council. That is why the attorney was hired at the last meeting. He is trying to lay the groundwork for a FORCED buyout of his contract.

Does this man ever tire of lawsuits and his own agenda?

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Similar to the rumor-mills about Gracie Floyd not doing anything for the past decade for Anderson, all the while tooting their horns about how much progress the Driver-brigade has wrought. I made the mistake the other day of pushing the botton on my radio and heard some @sshole with pure-hatred and racial overtones, saying nothing but erroneous and false statements.  I am assured that whomever speaks on that station, I vote quite the opposite of their stance.

JRP is a nice enuf fella. His job performance & progress would be much greater IF he had overall cooperation from council.  I can almost assure readers that if this comes to a contract violation and personal vendetta, the civil penalties and fines/fees/judgements will be unbelievable!  And he'd deserve every penny.

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JD,

I'm not sure if you caught this or not, but for the sake of saving time, I'm simply going to cut-and-paste my comments from the AIM article:

I think the bigger question here is who in county government does not understand CONFIDENTIAL. Look at the PDF at the top of the article that Liz has been so gracious to post.

PAGE ONE - Just Below Ron Wilson. You will see where, albeit it's faded due to the poor quality of the fax, the letter is marked CONFIDENTIAL.

So, who is the leak?

Finding the leak may be as easy as scrolling to the third page of that PDF. You'll see two phone numbers listed: One I'm wagering is a fax line, the other, I'm not so sure about.

As they say in the Navy: Loose lips sink ships.

 

- SSHM

 

PS - It's time to break out my old Styx Album. Renegade, anyone?

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Ahhhh, SSHM, I understand what you're saying, and I do agree with the "loose lips, sink ships" theory, but just putting the word "CONFIDENTIAL" at the top of an official letter does NOT automatically exclude it from the requirements of the S.C. Freedom of Information Act.

This I know for a fact. I tried it once as a county employee. I should have just written, "SOMEBODY POST THIS ON THE BULLETIN BOARD AND CALL CHANNEL 4" instead.

Besides, even the FOIA says that certain items "may" be withheld from the public. It doesn't say they "must" be withheld from the public. Elected officials are generally given broad discretion on those issues.

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JD,

I agree totally about FOIA. However, the Anderson Independent-Mail, at least this past year, has made it CRYSTAL CLEAR when an FOIA was used to obtain information from the county.

This article is clearly devoid of any sort reference to FOIA. I stand by my assertion that this was leaked.

/waits for Liz to amend her posted article to say an FOIA request was filed, etc . . .
/turns purple


- SSHM
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SSHM, I'm not disputing you on that point. It probably WAS leaked by a county official or employee. The only question I have is whether or not it was actually an ILLEGAL breach of confidentiality. (I have my doubts about that.) My personal guess is that is was NOT the product of an FOIA request, because if it had been, we wouldn't have known about it until sometime next summer, if at all.

In any event, the law is absolutely clear that the AIM had every right to publish it as long as they received it through legal means (in other words, if they didn't break into somebody's office and swipe it - and I seriously doubt that Liz Carey took the "Breaking and Entering 101" class in college.)

Besides, the source of the information does nothing to change the subject of whether Joey Preston has resigned or not. Inquiring minds want to know - and I do, too.

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Someone named thedavester posted this under the AIM story:

"The 2 numbers listed on page 3 are the fax numbers for Anderson Independent Mail (260-1276) and the Anderson County Sheriffs Office (260-4354)"
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Hmmmm. You don't think, maybe, this is all part of a Sheriff's Office "sting" operation, do you?

Kidding. Any leak would have had to come either from one of the people who received the letter (Council member or County Attorney) or from Preston's office. I still contend that, in the overall scheme of things, it doesn't matter who leaked it - although it is intriguing that it apparently went through the Sherrif's Office.

What's up with that?
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Since I pay taxes in Anderson County as most of you do, this action by Mr. Preston interest me also. If he is planning a huge lawsuit against the County it will cost all of us more taxes for years to come if he wins. I hope that Mr. Preston is a man of character and will not seek excessive dollars at the expense of the everyday people like us that fund the County.
I realize there are two camps facing off in the political battle at ground zero, Mr. Preston's position as County Administrator. Rather than slander each other we should think first of our County and what is best for us. I have often wondered just how our County would be faring if the dispute between Mr. Preston and Ms. Wilson had never occurred. When she as an elected official asked Mr. Preston her very first question some years ago: "Mr. Preston, will you give us a report on how much the County has paid in legal expenses for the past fiscal year?" (I don't remember what the original sin or question was but it was probably a simple question.) What if Mr. Preston had done what I believe he should have done by answering in the positive and provided Council a written statement by the next Council meeting. Seems now that would have made lots of sense and perhaps the road traveled the past few years would have been a nice paved road instead of the gravel potholed road we have been on.
Maybe both camps will consider my statement and tell us why Mr. Preston should have replied to Ms. Wilson's request or why you believe that Mr. Preston has done correctly by trying for years to keep Ms. Wilson, and others, from getting correct and quick answers to questions concerning our tax money.
Al Brown

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Since I pay taxes in Anderson County as most of you do, this action by Mr. Preston interest me also. If he is planning a huge lawsuit against the County it will cost all of us more taxes for years to come if he wins. I hope that Mr. Preston is a man of character and will not seek excessive dollars at the expense of the everyday people like us that fund the County.
I realize there are two camps facing off in the political battle at ground zero, Mr. Preston's position as County Administrator. Rather than slander each other we should think first of our County and what is best for us. I have often wondered just how our County would be faring if the dispute between Mr. Preston and Ms. Wilson had never occurred. When she as an elected official asked Mr. Preston her very first question some years ago: "Mr. Preston, will you give us a report on how much the County has paid in legal expenses for the past fiscal year?" (I don't remember what the original sin or question was but it was probably a simple question.) What if Mr. Preston had done what I believe he should have done by answering in the positive and provided Council a written statement by the next Council meeting. Seems now that would have made lots of sense and perhaps the road traveled the past few years would have been a nice paved road instead of the gravel potholed road we have been on.
Maybe both camps will consider my statement and tell us why Mr. Preston should have replied to Ms. Wilson's request or why you believe that Mr. Preston has done correctly by trying for years to keep Ms. Wilson, and others, from getting correct and quick answers to questions concerning our tax money.
Al Brown

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It is not a matter of being in either camp. Your first paragraph is spot on!
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“anticipatorialy breeched”? He anticipates the contract will be breeched and wants a buy out before it happens? Can we do that by anticipating we will win the lottery? LOL Maybe he should wait and see rather than show panic. Is he afraid he may face tighter restrictions (like - - get some direction from the CC) and be required to open the books?

The cost for wrongful termination is in his contract that was posted here. No one has ever addressed if the contract was voted on by CC when it was signed or if W Floyd just signed it on behalf of the County. Betcha someone’slooking into that now.

This is a weird county. 

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This morning when I re-read the article while I was having coffee something stood out that I seemed to have passed over yesterday afternoon.
Councilman-to-be Mr. Eddie Moore said:

“I find it extremely offensive and disturbing that Mr. Preston has viewed the new council this way,” he said in a prepared statement. “This is a far cry from the truth. We only want an open, honest, accountable government for Anderson County. If Mr. Preston differs with us on that point, then he has a hidden problem, not us. We only have a positive, progressive agenda scheduled for Anderson County.”

To me, the 'open, honest, accountable government for Anderson County' speaks loud and clear. In my reading hundreds of posts the past few months I remember those words over and over in numerous posts by different people. That seems to be the very foundation that may have caused the split between many voters. Some want open, honest, accountable government. Some do not put that as a priority. We have read from candidates in other counties running for various offices say the same thing. We have read where Gov. Sanford has said the same thing: open and transparent government for the people.

Can someone with perhaps an 'in' with Mr. Preston explain why he has objected to the open and transparent form of government?

Hope everyone has a great Saturday and GO TIGERS under new Coach Dabo!
Al Brown

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Good points mr al.

And let me add... GO TERPS under possibly soon to be gone Coach Ralph!

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I too hear this the phrase "open and honest government" a lot. Now let us ask ourselves what truly is open, honest, and fair government. Is it one where one person can totally disrupt the process of government on the grounds of I don't get what I am asking for, and I don’t get the originals. Lets examine these arguments though; first can Cindy really say that she hasn't gotten what she asked for. No, even she admits that she has gotten the documents she wants, so lets try the other of not having original documents. I think the best argument for this point is that Cindy once declared that she was not receiving the proper documents she wanted because the administrator had stricken information, which he did, what she left out was that this information were the Social Security numbers of employees. In this day and time that’s information you are loathe to hand over to your grandmother. Now for the big conclusion, Du-Da! Cindy really wants to be where Joey is sitting, which is running the county (sorry JRP supporters but he does), except she will do it from the council side and if anyone thinks she wont dictate what that council will do well you need to see a shrink for those fantasies.

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