Marines in S.C. told they shouldn't fight?

So JD what exactly is the point of your post?

The Marines Corps aren't doing any fighting - they are are just hosting this ICF event on federal property that is outside of SC state's legal jurisdiction, as is the case with any federal installation.

Apparently ICF International has secured the Marine Corps to host ICF events at several marine installations. (see ICE link)

http://icfights.com/index.php

Well, Citizen1, I've been told there may actually be a few U.S. Marines PARTICIPATING in that little contest. But my basic point was that our state legislature and state appointed officials (like the honorable Mr. Knight of the S..C. Athletic Commision) really have more important stuff to pay attention to that what's happening at Parris Island - a facility over which they have no jurisdiction.

Beyond that, my post probably had about as much of a point as most of yours do, especially the eight or 10 separate threads you've started on Sarah Palin over the past month. What's YOUR point?

Hello JD - As the sister of a Marine and mother of a former Marine, this is an amusing article. Having lived the life of a Marine wife as well I saw all matters of foolishness as exampled by the above. Overall what we all experienced is something I miss today in the "civilian world". As a young wife we could be ordered to any base and have friendship, family and support leaving the last post and moving onto the new one. Marines are a special group. I wish more people experienced what being a part of the armed forces teaches those who serve and those who support our troops as family and friends.  It is a demanding difficult life full of sacrifices and hardships but being a part of it is a rewarding experience for all involved.

Last time my brother was in Iraq, I sent him "care packages" regularly. In one box I added boiled peanuts. One of his troops was from Alabama and nearly broke down and cried when he saw them. Needless to say he also enjoyed that taste of home. I included them in many packages after that.
In another box I sent mini-moos because cream for coffee was not available where my brother was stationed. He relayed that he received a curious gallon baggie of some congealed yellow substance with little containers of plastic in it. They had exploded and solidified turning in to a cheese product in the shipping container they were transported in. Some things just do not ship well in one hundred and thirty degree shipping containers.

A warm Semper Fi to you and your son,
Nicole

Well, Citizen1, I've been told there may actually be a few U.S. Marines PARTICIPATING in that little contest. But my basic point was that our state legislature and state appointed officials (like the honorable Mr. Knight of the S..C. Athletic Commision) really have more important stuff to pay attention to that what's happening at Parris Island - a facility over which they have no jurisdiction.

Beyond that, my post probably had about as much of a point as most of yours do, especially the eight or 10 separate threads you've started on Sarah Palin over the past month. What's YOUR point?

-jdtippett

So now you'd rather talk about my posts instead of your above post heh? (A  typical Republican ploy)

I doubt that your 'supposed sources' know what they are talking about since no military service, that I know  of,  allows its personnel to engage in activites such as this.

Again .. The Marine Corps are hosting this event .. not participating in it!

So now you'd rather talk about my posts instead of your above post heh? (A  typical Republican ploy)

I doubt that your 'supposed sources' know what they are talking about since no military service, that I know  of,  allows its personnel to engage in activites such as this.

Again .. The Marine Corps are hosting this event .. not participating in it!

-citizen1

SEMPER FI

Thank you, non-sequiter. You beat me to it.

Once again citizen1 you have no idea about what you are talking about!  Taking part in events similar to this on military bases goes back to  pre-WWII when boxing "smokers" were a regular part of off duty life on military bases. The participants were both military and civilian! Check things out before you post such nonsense!

 

SEMPER FI

-non-sequitur

WAKE UP you two - This isn't 1940-1945!

Geez ... Let's wait until the event occurs then we shall see if any Marines are participating.

BTW JD.

I don't appreciate your repeated attempts as a supposedly objective moderator to stigmatize  me.

Okay, first things first. Citizen1, if you feel stigmatized, it is because of your own actions, not mine. As a member of this forum, I reserve the right to debate with you any time, on any subject. That has nothing to do with the moderation role, and that applies to all of the moderators.

Now, non sequiter and I both realize that his is not the WWII era. Enlisted members of the U.S. Armed Forces, including U.S. Marines, are, indeed, allowed to participate in sports events sponsored by civilian entities with permission from their base commander via a DD FORM 2536. The only ones I've heard being denied the right to participate are some members of Special Operations (Special Forces) at Fort Bragg because the base commander didn't want to risk having them injured in civililan activities while awaiting deployment overseas.

But, let me point something out to you, Citizen1. You accused me of the "Republican" tactic of changing the subject to YOUR posts instead of discussing this one. The point of my first post was that the State of South Carolina has better things to do than to spend time worrying about what's going on at Parris Island. Officials of this state need to spend their time on issues that actually affect the people they represent.

YOU turned that into a debate over whether active-duty members of the U.S. Armed Forces can actually participate in such events, or are participating in this one. YOU changed the subject, not me. YOU stigmatized yourself, not me. I personally don't know or care if any U.S. Marines are participating, but I was told a couple them may enter. BUT THAT ISSUE WASN'T THE POINT OF THIS THREAD.

YOU are wrong on this one, not me. And I say that as JDTippett, the forum member, not as a moderator. Sadly, moderators can't delete screen names simply because the owners of those screen names are wrong on an issue. If we could, there may be none of us left to talk within a week.

Scratchy, that's sort of what the thumbs up/thumbs down feature is all about.

Of course, I'd hate to think that feature would be abused by some based on WHO said something or what OPINION they expressed, rather than whether the post is offensive.

My guess is we have some members here who haven't spent a lot of time in bars and nightclubs. Most of us learn pretty early in life not to pick a fight with the bouncers.

Scratch, I seem to recall you complaining because in the early days of the Cocklebur you were banned.  You've also been banned under several names in different areas.  Most of us have been banned somewhere.   So it's realllly hypocritical of you to keep trying to get Citizen banned. 

Put a Seal, a Marine  and an Army Spec Forces guy together, if you want to see some real fights. Unless they're in combat together.

Nicole,  as a woman who actually served in the military, I always love to hear about the "difficult life" the civilian wives had.  I especially like when they talk like they were in the military.  (You have NO idea.)  This is also one of the reasons why I really dislike having a president who has never served in the military.  He has no concept of what goes on and evidently wasn't willing to give his own life for his country.  (Sorry, but like your strong opinions about horses, I have mine about the military.)

-confused

Here is what I wrote, “It is a demanding difficult life full of sacrifices and hardships but being a part of it is a rewarding experience for all involved."

What I meant was,  It is a demanding difficult life full of sacrifices and hardships (for the service men & women) but being a part of it is a rewarding experience for all involved, (including the spouses and families).

Whether it is more difficult to be a “civilian wife" of a military man or the civilian wife of a civilian man would be a whole new forum. I bet that would be a lively discussion.

Nicole  

Nicole, kind of avoiding my point don't ya think?  My husband was out of town for 5 months helping out after the hurricanes(and will do it again), so the civilian wife comparison doesn't always work either. But we're really off the subject now, sorry.

(Scratchy, you must have removed a few brain cells or think that the rest of us have.)

Nicole, I understand exactly what you mean about military families.

I recall when my son was stationed in Iraq the first time - Fallujah in 2005 - we heard on the news about eight U.S. Marines being killed by an IED in Fallujah. At the time, my son's battalion was the only one in Fallujah.

Turned out it was a group, including four female Marines, on their way to interrogate some prisoners. But for hours after we heard about it, we waited, and prayed, and waited, and prayed - thinking any minute that U.S. Government car was going to drive up and two U.S. Marine officers were going to give us the news every military family dreads. (As a sidenote, when you finally find out it was somebody else's son or daughter who was killed, you first feel relief, and then you feel an overwhelming guilt that you felt relief that somebody else got that official visit. It's hell on earth, is what it is.)

Anyway, my son managed to call a couple of days later. By then, I was a nervous wreck.

"Dad, it's okay," he said. "I'm fine."

I said, "Yeah, but you knew that. We didn't."

The irony is that he actually feared less for his safety than we did, depite dodging enemy fire and IEDs, largely because, as I noted, HE knew exactly what was going on at all times. We didn't. And the delay between learning of an incident involving casualities and finding out who was killed is excruciating in this day and age of 24-hour news.Yes, being in a Marine family is rewarding. It's also more difficult that simply having a family member out of town for a few weeks.