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If you look at the news you will see that the republicans killed the bill. the republicins did it.

The vote against the measure was 228 to 205, with 133 Republicans turning against President Bush to join 95 Democrats in opposition. The bill was backed by 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.

what about the 95 democrats that did not two the line???????
the problem with this bill is the people writing it. the leaders.
get some bankers and people that understand the market to help. and take out the cars and credit cards.
and the news idots should be all taken out and shot. you could not find the truth is you whatched every news show out there.

+ Nancy P trying to lay the blame on bush. we all know where the problem started.

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Hankey, I agree with you, but the title of this thread was unnecessary.
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Trying to get a little trafic JD!
not to mention how pissed Mr. Hankey is after only looking at NBC for 30 min. god what partisin crap.

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Hey Hankey if you looked at morning joe this morning you would have seen all of them trying to blame newt gingrich. I mean really this is getting dumber and dumber. Has anyone stopped to ask why are they in such a rush to pass this trash now, when it's too late but Barney and the gang stopped passage of anything that could have stopped this from happening, because they could see nothing that would indicate there was any problem. Seems their forecasting abilities are out of wack.

Hankey can you go back in and edit the title, its really not cool

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No I can not.
this title reflects the tone of the news media. (or the joke that they are)

All the talk that Mr. Hankey seen was them Damn republikins killed it. what are they thinking. J McCain cant even keep them in line.
Thats where this title came from. in its own stupid way it makes a point.

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I get it but there is an old saying you know the one two wrongs don't make a right. So leave it if you like but it is not cool.

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Let's see;

A Republican bill...by a Republican Secretary of the Treasury...working for a Republican President...with a Republican candidate for President saying he saved the day and guaranteed passage.

Yet the Republican Minority leader could only get 1 out of 3 Republicans in line.

Yup, Hank is right !
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PAPPY, tell the ltruth here. McCain never guaranteed passage in the House of Representatives, nor did Obama. Those two aren't even in the House. They're SENATORS.

Personally, after having had the chance to review what they were voting on, I'm GLAD they killed it, and I'll give a pat on the back to whichever party wants to take credit for killing  this boondoggle.

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Pappy don't try to say this is a republican bill. its a BI party bill.
Grandma Marry Paint suit Poloosy and the other Demmy had much to do with it.

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If this comes to pass and defaulted student loans, defaulted credit card debt, defaulted mortgages and high-risk investments are 'bailed out' then what is the motivation for anyone in this country to continue to pay his or her bills, protect his or her credit rating and work towards doing the right thing? I have both phoned and emailed my representatives in Washington: Gresham Barrett and Jim DeMint's offices- expressing my extreme pleasure with Gresham's vote, and extreme displeasure with Jim's vote, on the alleged 'Bail Out Plan'. I believe the Time Magazine article on the web (Let Risk Taking Financial Institutions Fail) speaks to the real issue at hand - SECURITIES. Those of us who pay our bills are being penalized for doing just that. Ive watched the development/commercial real estate industry investors stampede around in 'vulture-esque' circles for more than a year waiting to swoop in and get the biggest default deal, and all this is just a bigger version. You mark my words . When the bailout agreement comes, and it will come, there will be a huge surge in the market before a single check has been cut. If the Banks don't actually REQUIRE A CHECK to rebound, then why do they need a check at all? We know that graft and corruption was rampant at Fannie Mae yet their 3 leaders left with close to $350Mn in 'benefits' when forced to leave. What else do we not know?
This crap completely p***es me off. I recognize that something needs to be done to shore up / stabilize SHORT TERM but the government has no business being in the banking or home ownership business. I listened to the Donald this morning and quite frankly he makes more sense than all of the economists combined. There's a great deal of 'the sky is falling' going on and rather than knee jerk (and make Paulson even more powerful than he already is) everyone needs to take a deep breath. All of these bank failures have more to do with the media terrorizing the average joe with too much information , rumor and innuendo than it does fact and average joe doesn't understand finance so he PANICS . There's already a federal investigation under way as to the fall of Lehman- someone at the Federal banking level allegedly created the run on that bank in an effort to force it's fall- which is what started this whole mess. I hate to sound like Mel Gibsons character in 'Conspiracy Theory, but it would be nice for THE VOICE OF REASON TO BE IN PLAY HERE. Makes me CRAZY. It's a market correction- it's been coming for about 4 years, and let's face it, it takes 2 years for a foreclosure to come full cycle so what we're dealing with is at least 2 years old. The banks knew about all of this 2 years ago and just now they're crying wolf? WHY IS THAT?

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PAPPY, tell the ltruth here. McCain never guaranteed passage in the House of Representatives, nor did Obama. Those two aren't even in the House. They're SENATORS.

Personally, after having had the chance to review what they were voting on, I'm GLAD they killed it, and I'll give a pat on the back to whichever party wants to take credit for killing  this boondoggle.


-jdtippett



JD,

Surprisingly I agree with your second paragraph.

However, McCain did go to Washington and did sit down with the House minority leader and come away with a promise that he would deliver sufficient votes to pass the bill.  Before he arrived the Senate was in agreement on the bill.

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Pappy don't try to say this is a republican bill. its a BI party bill.
Grandma Marry Paint suit Poloosy and the other Demmy had much to do with it.


-mr-hankey-the-d



Sorry Hank. The bill was proposed by the Executive branch, which call themselves Republicans.
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When I am wrong, I admit it- I falsely accused Jim DeMint and was advised by someone in his office that he IN FACT never voted on the bill Monday (yes reading newspapers can cause confusion when they state Gresham Barrett was the only South Carolina elected official in Washington who voted against the bill): Jim DeMints statement regarding the proposed bailout bill is below:

DeMint Opposes Wall Street Bailout

Plan does not solve the problems that caused the current credit crunch, and could make them much worse

22 September 2008- Today, U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina) announced his opposition to the $700 billion plan proposed by the Bush Administration to bailout Wall Street.

"After reviewing the Administration's proposed bailout plan, I believe it is completely unacceptable. This plan does nothing to address the misguided government policies that created this mess and it could make matters much worse by socializing an entire sector of the U.S. economy. This plan fails to oversee or regulate the government failures that led to this crisis. Instead it greatly increases the role for Secretary Paulson whose market predictions have been consistently wrong in the last year, and provides corporate welfare for investment firms on Wall Street that don't want to disclose their assets and sell them to private investors for market rates. Most Americans are paying their bills on time and investing responsibly and should not be forced to pay for the reckless actions of some on Wall Street, especially when no one can guarantee this will solve our current problems."

"This plan will not only cause our nation to fall off the debt cliff, it could send the value of the dollar into a free-fall as investors around the world question our ability to repay our debts. It's also very likely that this plan will extend the cycle of bailouts, encouraging other companies to behave in reckless ways that create the need for even more bailouts, triggering an endless run on our treasury. This plan may make things look better for Wall Street in the next couple months, but the long-term consequences to our economy could be disastrous.

"There are much better ways of dealing with this problem than forcing American taxpayers to pay for every asset some investor doesn't want anymore. We should start by reforming government policies and programs that created this mess, including the Federal Reserve's easy money policy, the congressional charters of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the Community Reinvestment Act. Then Congress should pass a number of permanent and proven pro-growth reforms to encourage capital formation and boost asset values. We need to make permanent reductions in the corporate tax and the capital gains tax rates. We have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world, which encourages companies to take jobs and investment overseas."

"It's a sad fact, but Americans can no longer trust the economic information they are getting from this Administration. The Administration said the bailout of Bear Stearns would stop the bleeding and solve the problem, but they were wrong. They said $150 billion in new government spending using rebate checks would solve the problem, but they were wrong again. They said new authority to bailout Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would solve the problem without being used, but they were wrong again. Now they want us to trust them to spend nearly a trillion dollars on more government bailouts. It's completely irresponsible and I cannot support it."

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OK Mr. Hankey the Damn Yankee is going to ask this right now before they vote on this. will Berry Obama get to vote after McCain has already comited his vote? and will Berry then vote no or preasent so he can't be blamed? then to cover his behind he will clame the bill is still flawed and it could have been better? Or will the bill pass before he has to vote and then his vote will be a none issue. (like most Obama votes)
I tell you this could happen.
With a snake like Berry Obama Mr. hankey would not be surprised.
then again Obama can take credit on both sides and not have to vote.
Mr. hankey says let Berry and John both be the first to vote. ENG GAME!

we will find out soon!

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OK Mr. Hankey the Damn Yankee is going to ask this right now before they vote on this. will Berry Obama get to vote after McCain has already comited his vote? and will Berry then vote no or preasent so he can't be blamed? then to cover his behind he will clame the bill is still flawed and it could have been better? Or will the bill pass before he has to vote and then his vote will be a none issue. (like most Obama votes)
I tell you this could happen.
With a snake like Berry Obama Mr. hankey would not be surprised.
then again Obama can take credit on both sides and not have to vote.
Mr. hankey says let Berry and John both be the first to vote. ENG GAME!

we will find out soon!


-mr-hankey-the-d


Hank,


I know the answer to your question before the vote takes place.

Senator Obama will vote yea.

Rest soundly !



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Can someone please tell me how an 850 billion dollar bail out with all kinds of stuff for other things is better than a 700 dollar billion bail out? Any one that votes for this is not reading or they are not looking out for us.

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How would you vote, Pappy?
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How would you vote, Pappy?

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NAY
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JD,Surprisingly I agree with your second paragraph.However, McCain did go to Washington and did sit down with the House minority leader and come away with a promise that he would deliver sufficient votes to pass the bill.  Before he arrived the Senate was in agreement on the bill.

-pappy

Gee Pappy, I thought it was worked out by Nancy P? Let' see, she worked out out before she trashed it ? That seems to be the Demo way. Kind'a like JF Kerry? For it before being against it.

Not to worry, they'll all get togehter and spend our money on someone else.

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republikin,

You easily forget that this was a Republican bill, initiated by a Republican President, presenter by a Republican Secretary.with a promise to deliver 70 votes by the Republican Minority leader.It didn't happen and it went down in flames, which I happen to approve of
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