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Me! Me! Let me answer!! Laughing

If we do not "level the market" the market will level itself. End story.

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OH Pappy stop with the bs.


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Noeline,

You can do better than that.

What part of my statement do you disagree with and why ?
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a war that adds a billion a month,the first ever not financed with taxes.=pappy

pappy how did we pay for the other wars?

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If we do not "level the market" the market will level itself. End story.

-jdtippett

I don't think so JD.
Too much hype on this. doom and gloom.
doom and gloom.
this will all go away when Obama gets the keys

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Pappy,
I'm not new to economics, but I cannot get a clear answer to this question, and I'm wondering if, given your background, you can shed some light on it for me. We are using the bailout plan to "level the market." What specifically happens if we don't?


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Frankly JD's answer is as good as any. How many times have you heard that 100 economists would offer 100 different answers to an economic question.

I think if we don't 'level the market' then the market would level itself. Mainly by doing what any  corporation is required to do according to generally accepted accounting procedures, namely write down their bad assets to market value.

Don't you find it strange that there are banks with sufficient funds to buy those that are ready to go down ? It seems to me that there is funding available for some institutions to buy out these poorly run outfits. They are doing something right !

I believe that the 'risk factor' is the culprit. The investment institutions and brokerage houses that felt they wanted to take the risk and deal in subprime mortgages believed the enormous profits  were worth the risk. But when you accept that premise you must be prepared for the consequences if you guessed wrong.

 
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a war that adds a billion a month,the first ever not financed with taxes.=pappy

pappy how did we pay for the other wars?


-mr-hankey-the-d



With taxes and with EVERYONE sacrificing, not just the service people and their families as in this conflict.
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never mind

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this will all go away when Obama gets the keys


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Damn, once again you have seen the light and agreed with me. 

People are starting to talk.
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it will all go away then pappy because more then half of this is made up hype.

and because Obama pocketed big cash from fanny or freddy and he will need to keep this on the down low.

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Frankly JD's answer is as good as any. How many times have you heard that 100 economists would offer 100 different answers to an economic question.

I think if we don't 'level the market' then the market would level itself. Mainly by doing what any  corporation is required to do according to generally accepted accounting procedures, namely write down their bad assets to market value.

Don't you find it strange that there are banks with sufficient funds to buy those that are ready to go down ? It seems to me that there is funding available for some institutions to buy out these poorly run outfits. They are doing something right !

I believe that the 'risk factor' is the culprit. The investment institutions and brokerage houses that felt they wanted to take the risk and deal in subprime mortgages believed the enormous profits  were worth the risk. But when you accept that premise you must be prepared for the consequences if you guessed wrong.

 

-pappy

 

My confidence in you just went up a notch or three, Pappy.  Thanks for a good post.

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Thanks guys. That's what I had gathered myself, but it just seemed to simple, as if there was something I was missing, something worth 700 billion actually.

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If we do not "level the market" the market will level itself. End story.


-jdtippett

A very simple, but not complete answer.  In a "free market" system which is what we are supposed to have in the US.  The market will level on it's own.  Part of the current problem is the fact that Mr. Greenspan facilitated the housing bubble by keeping interest rates too low for too long in his attempt to prevent the US economy form going in to a recession.  He pretty much admitted to this in front of the Senate Finance Committee a few weeks ago.  The "free market" system was converted to a "semi-free market" system when the government provided it's first bail out.  As I stated, 700 billion is just the beginning.  We have started down a very slippery slope as evidenced by the current debate on the bail out plan for the auto manufacturing industry.

 

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