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Broadway Lake Center actually Broadview Johnson
Receiving $900,000 in funding

By Stan Welch

A recent general obligation bond issue approved by the County Council, in the amount of $10 million, included just over $900,000 to be used in renovating a community center in District Two.

Now, there seem to be serious questions about where the Broadway Lake Community Center, as it was referred to during budget discussions, actually is.

For weeks the building was referred to as the Broadway Lake Community Center, but at final reading of the bond ordinance, District Two Councilwoman Gracie Floyd informed the Council that the building in question was actually the Broadview Johnson Community Center.

“This is not on the lake, this is the community center off of Broadway Lake Rd., known as the Jebco Center,” said Floyd, during a discussion of the bond issue. (Editor’s note: Despite the acronym for the Johnson Broadview Estates Community Organization actually being JBECO, it is commonly pronounced as jebco.)

District Seven Councilwoman Cindy Wilson, who has repeatedly questioned the estimates of more than $900,000 to renovate the facility, was stunned, saying “You mean this is the JBECO center we’re talking about? I don’t think anyone in the entire county realized that was what we were talking about. I can’t believe it.”

Ms. Wilson says that during the original presentation on the proposed renovation to be funded under the ten million dollar general obligation bond, all indications were that the site was located on the lakefront. “There were pictures that showed the lake in the background and information on flood elevations and other indications that this would be a waterfront location. I thought we were talking about the county owned property at the dam site. When Ms. Floyd said it was to be the Jebco center, I was flabbergasted. We have been misled about this and about the estimated costs. Exactly where is this money going?”

Wilson has repeatedly claimed that the project could be done for less than half of the proposed cost.

The Johnson Broadview Estates Community Organization, located on Melody Trail off of Broadway Lake Road, has been the recipient of a considerable amount of financial attention from Ms. Floyd in the years she has been on the Council.

Records obtained by The Journal reflect more than $81,000 in appropriations by Councilwoman Floyd to the Center, which is a 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization, since 1999.

In 1998, Chairman William Floyd appropriated $10,200 to the JBECO Center, with no indication of what the money would be used for, nor any record of the appropriation in the minutes of meetings held during that time. In October of 1999, following her husband’s untimely death, and her September election to fill his term, newly seated Councilwoman Gracie Floyd appropriated $8900 from her recreation funds to be used for recreational purposes.

In March of 2000, she allocated an additional $2800 for an unspecified purpose, followed in September by an appropriation of $12,500 “to continue to do work at the community center”, according to county documents. The nature of the work was unspecified.

In July 2001, she requested that $10,000 be appropriated, with no indication of its intended use. A little less than a year later, an additional $4000 was approved for roof repair and replacement.

In November of 2002, $4500 was allocated for “community enhancement”. In July of 2003, $8500 was appropriated for repairs due to water damage from a “bad roof”.

In July of 2004, $6000 was allocated for undesignated uses, followed by a $3000 amount in February of 2005, to be used in mold removal. In July of that same year, $5000 was allocated to the JBECO Community Association. No mention of the funds’ intended uses was made.

July of 2006 saw another allocation made in the amount of $5000, again undesignated to any specific purpose, according to county records. In September of 2007, Councilwoman Floyd requested that an additional $3000 of her District’s recreational funds be allocated to the center. The purpose of the funds was not mentioned.

Anderson County Purchasing Director Robert Carroll said that the County has never been involved in seeking bids or awarding any contracts for repairs or renovations at the JBECO center. “None of those projects have been handled by the County, so we have no contracts, bids, or any documents of that nature on file.”

Gina Humphreys, Finance Director for the county, added that when a 501(C)(3) organization receives an appropriation from a Council member that no documentation of its use is required. “We don’t ask for invoices or bids or things like that. We just cut the check directly to the organization,” said Humpheys.

Efforts to reach Ms. Floyd for comment were unsuccessful.

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fanatic - member
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This raises more questions about what is being done with tax dollars and is anyone really sure!!!

Where is the AIM information/article on this???

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superstar - member
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The AIM information would go against the policy of the Editor, not to put too much truth in spending in his paper. It would raise too many eyebrows to have the public know she has appropriated that amount to a 501 C 3. The 501 C 3 does have to provide their financial information if it is requested. You can also contact the Sec. o' State if they fail to do so upon request. They should have By-Laws and 990's filed with the state and the feds. You can try to find out where the money went but I would venture to guess they will not be forth coming with it.

fanatic - admin
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I agree with Non-sequiter on this one. Whether you agree with Stan Welch's politics and tactics or not, the story seems to be well-sourced and presents a huge question about County Council's oversight - or lack thereof - on projects conained within its $10 million bond issue.

How about it, AIM? Does it deserve a follow-up? Shouldn't you at least confirm it or refute it, or, perhaps given the explosive nature of the material, detonate it or defuse it? Inquiring minds want to know. Wink

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I should think Ms. Floyd should answer, she made the appropriations requests. We can be fairly sure that won't happen.

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Nearly $100,000 of OUR tax money was given away by Gracie Floyd and most of it for NO SPECIFIC PURPOSE. Purchasing Director Robert Carroll said "the County has never been involved in seeking bids or awarding any contracts for repairs or renovations at the JBECO center. “None of those projects have been handled by the County, so we have no contracts, bids, or any documents of that nature on file.” Cause for alarm folks?? You bet it is!
Even worse, Gina Humphreys, who is highly overpaid to oversee our money in the Finance Dept. has the audacity to say “We don’t ask for invoices or bids or things like that. We just cut the check directly to the organization." More cause for concern?? Yep. Even the Prestonites would have to question why large amounts of OUR money is put in someones pocket and no further questions asked. Another important point...is the JBECO building even owned by the county? Why are we putting so many roofs on that bulding?
Folks, we are once again witnessing the famous 'Smoke and Mirrors' metaphor that Joey Ray Preston has used in his act for the past 12 years as administrator. Here, he is using one of his clowns to take money from our pockets (taxes) and donate it to who-knows-who and for who-knows-what purpose.
SLED should be in Anderson asking for documentation on every cent that Gracie and Joeys other clowns have donated and that Gina has paid with absolutely no proof. It appears that we are being fleeced and it appears that it has been going on for years. I can imagine some people sitting in a jail cell for years wishing they had not accepted free tickets on this train.

superstar - member
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Maybe someone will have better luck searching the Sec of States charities and the IRS.gov web site for this group as a 501(C)(3)called Johnson Broadview Estates Community Organization

superstar - member
386 posts

Here's what I was able to find in South Carolina

http://www.scsos.com/index.asp?n=18&p=4&s=18&corporateid=273640

fanatic - member
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OK AIM... Can you even comment on what has been said and on what janedoe has found/not found? As a subscriber I expect more from you than this.  Step up to the plate and report!
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Here is what I have found out with very little checking:
Charles C. Lewis, Sr. appears to live at 1029 Greenwood Ave. off Broadway Lake Rd., has been there since 1977. (TMS 1781302006)
His lot on Greenwood Ave. backs up to lots on Melody Trail, off Broadway Lake Rd. Behind his lot are several lots in the name of Johnson-Broadview Estates Community Org. This is from Anderson County Property Info.
I'm not sure what we have but we know where Charles Lewis lives and where the land is for JBECO. I may ride that way tom. if I have a chance.
I hope Stan Welch will continue his investigation into this.

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Some more checking:
It appears there are at least 6 lots on Melody Trail in name of JBECO. The owners address on one lot is listed as 126 Leawood Ave. and most as P.O. Box 4032. A fee of about $215.00 on each lot was paid until 1997. The years 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 are not shown on the tax pages for some reason. In 2004 all lots paid the fee and from 2005 to present, no fee or tax. Leawood Ave. runs parallel to Melody Trail. All this is from public records that anyone can view.
Property owned by Anderson County is so named. There is no indication that these lots belong to Anderson County. Strange things seem to be happening on Melody Trail. Let's all keep looking.

superstar - member
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So we currently can't find proof that a 501 (C)(3) exists for JBECO. To get state non-profit status you have to file paperwork with names of the officers and maybe by-laws. Maybe someone can call the Sec. o' State tomorrow and ask what they have? Surely the county has a record of JBECO and who the "owners" are most especially as they have received 81K and might be getting 900K from us. Not paying taxes would make sense if the property is owned by a church.

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Stan's article is inaccurate. Stan asked the administrator if the building included in the bond would be:
1. At the current Broadway Lake park police building
2. At the defunct restaurant
3. At the Jebco location
On his radio show, he indicated that he received an answer only after his article had gone to press.

The answer is none of the above.

The answer is that THE BUILDING IS AT MC FALLS LANDING ON BROADWAY LAKE.

Seems to me that he should have waited for verification before printing a bogus story. Apparently there was no time to wait for the facts.

superstar - member
386 posts

If you don't answer the calls and you hang up, you really are not being pro-active in having the truth printed. When Gracie doesn't want to answer a call, hangs up, refuses to answer (set the phone on fax answer), or declines a concise answer she isn't helping her agenda.

Truth is, if you have nothing to hide, you hide nothing. Let's all help doing the homework and see where we all get from there. This could be fun.

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Stan's article is inaccurate. Stan asked the administrator if the building included in the bond would be:1. At the current Broadway Lake park police building2. At the defunct restaurant3. At the Jebco locationOn his radio show, he indicated that he received an answer only after his article had gone to press.

The answer is none of the above.

The answer is that THE BUILDING IS AT MC FALLS LANDING ON BROADWAY LAKE.

Seems to me that he should have waited for verification before printing a bogus story. Apparently there was no time to wait for the facts.

-sweet-p

The fact is,sweetp, that this project was discussed over the course of weeks, and it was consistently presented as a renovation/addition to an existing building. Photos of the interior of the proposed building were shown, with cracked walls and leaking faucets and all that stuff. Never once was the project billed as new construction, as per Mr. Preston's cleverly timed response. If this is the sharpest administrator in the world, as we are often told, why would there be any doubt, any lack of detail about a milllion dollar project that was in this GO bond proposal? Is it not his job to make sure that all the Council members have a clear understanding of his proposals? I mean even Ms. Floyd said at the third reading of the GO bond ordinance that the center in question was the JBECO center. Why didn't Joey correct her then, for the record? OR was that the meeting where Charter wasn't there taping. Why, I believe it was.
In addition, why would the county allow appropriations to a charity without some written confirmation that those PUBLIC funds were spent appropriately? I mean, what if Gracie, or Larry, orCindy gave $30K to some group for a van? would it beunreasonable to ask for a copy of the sales documents, or maybe come byand takethem for a ride, to be sure the money got spent on a van? It is taxpayer's money, after all.

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I think Stan gave us enough real facts that we can depend on him. He is about the only investigative reporter left in Anderson County. Keep it up Stan!

superstar - member
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Why don't each one of them give 10K to PEARL and let them build the county a place to put the big critters? We seem to have plenty to waste on less reliable appropriations.

Still trying to find out the 501(C)(3) designation.

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Anyone want to check and see when the county bought the little outparcel that sits in the grassy area off the Kroger building parking lot on River Street? (You can check the county land maps and Assessor Data.) It was not part of the original Kroger building deal. Who authorized its purchase??? I don't believe it was brought up at any Council meetings.
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Anyone want to check and see when the county bought the little outparcel that sits in the grassy area off the Kroger building parking lot on River Street? (You can check the county land maps and Assessor Data.) It was not part of the original Kroger building deal. Who authorized its purchase??? I don't believe it was brought up at any Council meetings.

-non-sequitur

non-sequitir, it has consistently been Mr. Preston's position that such transactions are within his purview as county administrator. the question is not whether Council was consulted, but where the money came from? For the last couple of years, we've been told that the budget has been cut to the bone, to the tissue, even as it swells by millions of dollars each year. So if we're into the tissue,and that is JRP's quote, where did this money come from? And who was the realtor?

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non-sequitir, it has consistently been Mr. Preston's position that such transactions are within his purview as county administrator. the question is not whether Council was consulted, but where the money came from? For the last couple of years, we've been told that the budget has been cut to the bone, to the tissue, even as it swells by millions of dollars each year. So if we're into the tissue,and that is JRP's quote, where did this money come from? And who was the realtor?

-dunebuggy

My money is on JP's good buddy Marshal as the agent. I thought JP had limited expense signatory powers?

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