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Everyone should attend the big debate tonight at the Anderson County Library. This is a VERY important race locally. Both candidates need to be held to honest intellectual discourse about real issues such as jobs, health care, public education and the environment. Moreover, Kevin Bryant (as the incumbent) needs explain why he deserves to be re-elected amidst a four year spiral that has left far too many Andersonians not as well off as they were before he was elected. It is important that voters attend the meeting and keep the candidates focused on the issues that matter and not allow them sidestep the tough questions and wrap themselves in the safety blanket of such trite rhetorical statements such as "I'm against guvment", "I'm against abortion", "I'm conservative", "I'm for open governemt" or my favorite "I'm for the people". Let's go ahead and chalk up these points in the column of both candidates. That said, here are some relevant question that both candidates should have to answer:

1. What will you do to get the East-West Connector Built?

2. What will you do to put unemployed/underemployed SC people back to work?

3. How can we stabilize public school funding in light of Act 388?

4. People fuss about condition of roads. And people have blamed the County. Howevever, most of the complaints are actually about the more heavily traveled STATE maintained roads. What are YOU gonna do about STATE road funding?

5. Growth is quickly urbanizing our pristine state. What will YOU do to strenghten planning laws to prevent continued degradation of the environment?

6. Free clinics and medicaid are overburdened in this sorry economy. What will YOU do to shore up the system to ensure essential health care for SC people?

Folks show up and pay attention. Don't let the real issues get lost among the typical mindless banter about "conservatism" and who is the most conservative. That's stupid and it certainly hasn't improved our lives in the past four years.

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Excellent post WPD. Get there at least a half hour early to put your questions into the debate. I expect a good turn out of all Cockleburrian voters.

See you there! Smile
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I won't be able to make it, but I hope that at least one question gets asked:

Are you committed to reforming our state in all areas including administration of government, the state tax system, and education in order to bring South Carolina into the 21st Century, or will you be an agent for the liberal, big spending status quo coalition of liberal Democrats and Jimmy Carter Republicans that currently run our state?

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Are you committed to reforming our state in all areas including administration of government, the state tax system, and education in order to bring South Carolina into the 21st Century, or will you be an agent for the liberal, big spending status quo coalition of liberal Democrats and Jimmy Carter Republicans that currently run our state?

-lee-cole



See . . .

This is EXACTLY why Kevin "I was born with TWO silver spoons in my mouth" Bryant doesn't get it. This is also why his core inner circle of supporters (not all of which are from District 3) don't get it:

NOBLE IDEALS AND HIGH-MINDED GOALS DO NOT PROVIDE FOR JOBS OR THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. PERIOD. People can look to those higher-level goals once basic needs are met.

Newsflash: BASIC NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET.

Meadors in a landslide . . .



- SSHM
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I want to know why I am still paying double for Electric City's water despite Mr. Bryant's 'best efforts' at sponsoring and supporting legislation (bills that are dead-on-arrival from the start) to end the City's practice?

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Because you don't have a well.

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sshm said "Meadors in a landslide . . "
sshm, please refresh my memory. What were your predictions concerning the June election for Bob Waldrep, Cindy Wilson, Larry Greer, Bill McAbee, Michael Thompson and Ron Wilson? I know you are pretty good at doing this but I just can't seem to remember how your picks came out. Can you?

WPD says to "not allow them sidestep the tough questions and wrap themselves in the safety blanket of such trite rhetorical statements such as "I'm against guvment", "I'm against abortion", "I'm conservative", "I'm for open governemt" or my favorite "I'm for the people".
These questions should be asked first to establish to the listeners what the basic beliefs of each candidate are: what is your stand on abortion; on marriage; on gun rights; on school vouchers; on fighting worldwide terrorism, to name a few. These are questions of utmost concern to the voters on both sides. Once they answer these, then the questions can include some of your concerns which are important also.

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These questions should be asked first to establish to the listeners what the basic beliefs of each candidate are: what is your stand on abortion; on marriage; on gun rights; on school vouchers; on fighting worldwide terrorism, to name a few. These are questions of utmost concern to the voters on both sides. Once they answer these, then the questions can include some of your concerns which are important also.

-prevail

So . . .

A stand on abortion is going to aid me and others in finding a job how?

A stand on marriage is going to aid me and others in securing a home for my family how?

A stand on school vouchers is going to help drive down the costs on goods I need to survive how?

A stand on gun rights is going to help with the roads and infrastructure in my community how?

A stand on worldwide terrorism affects me how here in a small, poor, and poverty-strickened neighborhood in Anderson?

Mister Wilson . . . you are shopping NATIONAL politics on a LOCAL state senate race. These question have no place or validity in the day-to-day lives of MANY Andersonians. If you want to know what really resonates with the people, let me introduce you to Abraham Maslow.

Once you address the lowest levels of the pyramid . . . you can move on to the higher-level needs.

- SSHM

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What are you, SSHM, the biggest "Me" in the "Me Generation?"

Actually, there's a very good reason for abortion, at least, to be a state issue. IF - and I repeat IF - Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, it will put the question of whether abortion will or will not be allowed in South Carolina (and/or what restrictions will be placed on it) squarely in the laps of the S.C. General Assembly.

Overturning Roe will NOT outlaw abortion, no matter what the hysterics try to tell you. It'll just put it back to a state-by-state issue as it was prior to 1973, when about half the states already allowed it.

Sooooo ... for voters for whom the abortion question NATIONALLY looms large, whether they're for or against, it is, indeed, important to know where a candidate for the S.C. Senate stands - regardless of what your little pyramid shows.

By the way, did you know "sex" is included twice in your pyramid - once under "physiological" and again under "love/belonging." At my age, once is quite enough, regardless of which category you put it under. Of course, for all I care, you can put it in there three times - it also fits under self-actualizaton: problem solving. Wink

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What are you, SSHM, the biggest "Me" in the "Me Generation?"

Actually, there's a very good reason for abortion, at least, to be a state issue. IF - and I repeat IF - Roe v. Wade is ever overturned, it will put the question of whether abortion will or will not be allowed in South Carolina (and/or what restrictions will be placed on it) squarely in the laps of the S.C. General Assembly.

Overturning Roe will NOT outlaw abortion, no matter what the hysterics try to tell you. It'll just put it back to a state-by-state issue as it was prior to 1973, when about half the states already allowed it.

Sooooo ... for voters for whom the abortion question NATIONALLY looms large, whether they're for or against, it is, indeed, important to know where a candidate for the S.C. Senate stands - regardless of what your little pyramid shows.

By the way, did you know "sex" is included twice in your pyramid - once under "physiological" and again under "love/belonging." At my age, once is quite enough, regardless of which category you put it under. Of course, for all I care you can put it in there three times - it also fits under self-actualizaton: problem solving. [image]


-jdtippett



Overturning Roe will fuctionally end abortion south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
In fact in states like Mississippi, where there is only one clinic for the whole state, where they have to fly in a doctor to perform the operations, it's almost extinct anyway.
When that happens, rich white folks will be able to send their kids to NY, meanwhile the poor folks have to just have babies and like it, while people such as yourself complain about the cost to medicaid and welfare. All the while avoiding anything resembling real sex education.


I would ask what the discussion of abortion has to do with tonight's debate, but if JD gets his way and this becomes a state issue, then we may have that decision made by Kevin Bryant and his scary, scary ilk.
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Hey, hey, what's wrong with sex being on every level? I knew I liked that Maslow dude.

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Obviuosly Prevail has never had to deal up close and personal with not having a job...or suddenly losing a breadwinner....

when you worry about whether you will have a job next month, the viewpoint on gay marriage is not "of critical importance" any more.

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Jack, it has nothing to do with "my way." It's a practical consideration based on the direction the U.S. Supreme Court is moving in. And all of your points are valid, although I suspect Georgia, North Carolina and possibly Florida would maintain the abortion on demand option if it came to that and several others (including South Carolina) would retain it in specified circumstances.

And your comment about Bryant is on-target, although I don't think he's "scary, scary" in any way, shape or form. I was simply making the observation that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the debate over abortion will, indeed, return to the state level - simply because if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe on the argument that abortion is not a Constitutional right (the original decision declared that it IS a Constitutional right), then that same court, by extension, is saying the Federal government has no right to outlaw the practice in all 50 states either.

THEREFORE, where Marshall Meadors stands on the abortion question is, indeed, a legitimate issue for a debate over a State Senate race. That was my only point - it has nothing do do with where I stand on the issue. I've said before that my personal stance on the abortion issue doesn't please either of the extremes. That hasn't changed.

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Hey, hey, what's wrong with sex being on every level? I knew I liked that Maslow dude.


-ibvirginia

Nothing wrong with it on every level, Virginia, but I get nosebleeds if I'm too high when I try it (usually from being punched - you don't usually get punched at the lowest level of the pyramid unless you're in Anderson and don't have the required four bucks. You do run the risk of getting maced, though.) Embarassed

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Maced is not the only thing you run the risk of getting in that situation!

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Nothing wrong with it on every level, Virginia, but I get nosebleeds if I'm too high when I try it (usually from being punched - you don't usually get punched at the lowest level of the pyramid unless you're in Anderson and don't have the required four bucks. You do run the risk of getting maced, though.) [image]

-jdtippett

Apparently it's down to $3 now: Woman’s indecent proposal targets Anderson employee

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Don`t tell me the Mouth of the Rick is Wrong cheer leading squad is back,I thought we had gotten rid of all the mentally ill patients,and had them locked safely away in their rubber rooms.

-rino

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It cost to much to live up north now!
Thats why the Nother Hankey estate is for sale.

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Actually, there's a very good reason for abortion, at least, to be a state issue. IF - and I repeat IF - Roe v. Wade is ever overturned . . .

-jdtippett



So now we should play out every possible What-IF scenario prior to electing someone JD? Let's apply your logic here, shall we?

What-If . . . The Earth was due to be hit by a major comet and the Federal Government put it on the individual states to address? Shall we question Meadors/Bryant about this billion-to-one scenario?

Relevance . . . please learn it, JD.

Meanwhile ... PN hits the nail on the head as usual. Remind me to partner with him and Doug next time we have a Blog Horseshoe Contest.



- SSHM
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Yeah, well, remind me to partner with Hankey or someone the next time I need a prediction on any "landslide" elections. Even Hankey gets one right occasionally. Laughing

Like it or not, SSHM, the overturning of Roe v. Wade is NOT a "billion-to-one" scenario. There's a very real possiblity it could happen in the next four years, at which time the makeup of the S.C. General Assembly WILL matter.

And for what it's worth, I really haven't heard exactly where Meadors stands on the abortion. I have friends who are physicians who are opposed to the practice except to save the life of the mother. How tough is it to ask him, just to humor those who think it's an important issue if nothing else?

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