Topic: County Agency Performance?

[Scar:]
Just listen to teacher
I know it sounds sordid
But you'll be rewarded
When at last I am given my dues
And injustice deliciously squared
Be prepared!
[Spoken]
[Banzai:] Yeah, Be prepared.
Yeah-heh... we'll be prepared, heh.
...For what?
[Scar:] For the death of the king.
[Banzai:] Why? Is he sick?
[Scar:] No, fool-- we're going to kill him. And Simba too.
[Shenzi:] Great idea! Who needs a king?
[Shenzi (and then Banzai):]
No king! No king! la--la-la--la-laa-laa!
[Scar:] Idiots! There will be a king!
[Banzai:] Hey, but you said, uh...
[Scar:] I will be king! ...Stick with me, and
you'll never go hungry again!

I find it interesting you could get anyone to speak openly about this when there is probable pending litigation. What you have reported here is your version of what you you say he said a.k.a. hearsay. My suggestion is to have Rick Jefferson come on here or in a letter to the Editor refute the allegations made against he and his department using his facts.

One thing I feel comfortable saying is that the paper would be unlikely to have allowed the article to go to print without a lot of factual backup. They are usually very cautious about that sort of thing.

Yep. Liz Carey, Stanton Welch, Andy Parody and Anna Mitchell have certainly been very cautious in their coverage of the county of late. Fair and balanced all the way. Never thought I'd miss Ed Sealover and Wayne Mitchell. Insomuch as they were a pain in the ass, the did their due dilligence. And wow, did the county lose out when the Greenville News (Cindy Landrum and Anna Simon) quit covering the local beat. Atleast they kept the locals honest. I suspect the County routinely deals with such frivolous claims. There apparently is a process for dealing with such matters, and they would be foolish to get themselves sucked into such sensationalized nonsense by haphazardly jumping into the people's public opinion court with Judge Judy or Judge Wapner. Let the process run its course and then report the facts. The FACTS at this point my dear are the you (Jane Doe) along with Springs Sprung, Dunebuggy, Plumbob and let's not forget Prevail are so eager to throw the county under the bus at every turn that nothing you say can be taken seriously. Like Cindy and Bob, you've cried wolf so often and for so long that everything that comes out of your mouths should be taken with a grain of salt. For as sure as the sun will rise in the morning, the lot of you will take an oppositional stance on anything that emanates from County administration. Your irreverant comments and your childish nicknames (flip flop Ron and Bloodsucker to name a few) rob you of absolutely any legitimacy. You are political hooligans.

WPD - If we waited as you suggest until the process ran their couse, there would be nothing called - "breaking news". I look forward to the retraction you seem to indicate will be coming after your buddy clears it all up.

No journalist has "kept the locals" honest - but that was cute so was your cute little Lion King reference. Which animal do you associate with the warthog or the hyena?

The hyenas are all the operatives who take what the few villains say as the truth and mindlessly sing along in chorus without trying to sort out fact from fiction.

"As to Ron Wilson, I have little to no regard for him and his ability to bend in whatever manner the wind blows in an effort to preserve what I perceive to be his hide as opposed to serving the voters of his district- of which I am one."

Wow, didn't realize District 6 only had one voter living there. Don't you think that, just maybe, he is doing what some voters are asking him to do?

Stan has zero credibility. Why should we believe anything he writes?

Don't be so melodramatic Spring. I understand that there have been more than 10,000 single family houses built and inspected in Anderson County during the past decade. If you had a forensic construction engineer analyze each and every one under a microscope, he could probably note something wrong on every last one of them. A house has many components and a rountine inspection by a human inspector might just miss some caulking errors or an errant nail every once in a while. However, the processes employed by the Anderson County Building and Codes Department are sound, thus there is a reasonable expectation that all inspected dwellings are code compliant. Moreover, all the staff is certified and experienced. In addition to having two state certified building officials among top management, the Building Codes Director and the Assistant Director are graduates of Clemson's structural engineering program. You're barking up the wrong tree, plain and simple.

"Now you totally reverse directions, and say that YOU are the one who is making the allegations..that YOU have seen the evidence..have interviewed the homeowner..and reviewed the evidence.. "

PN,

I don't know what you read (must be that Klempsun education), but I never said it was ME making the allegations. What I believe I said was I was I was FAMILIAR with the case as I know the Chandlers and have seen the documentation as well as the inadequacies at the home.

Again, the county signed off on a structure that did not meet the minimum accepted standards for construction and did not meet the International Building Code specifications. That is the plain truth. Dpoesn't matter who did it, the fact is it was done and the county is responsible. There is documentation that bin July of 2007 Mr. Chandler contacted the county with a deviation log outlining the deficiencies, and received no response. It's difficult to argue with photos, 2 engineering reports and copies of the approved stages of construction by the county. It's just that simple. Certainly there has to be a reason this was allowed to happen. The question is HOW AND WHY?

I wasn;t present when Mr. Welch wrote the article nor was I privy to any conversations held between he and Mr. Chandler but again, the facts shall speak for themselves in October.

-springs-sprung

I once heard a Federal Judge explain to a jury that the only evidence in a case is that which is presented from the witness stand and entered into the court record. What the lawyers say is NOT evidence, or facts in a case.
That's how legal cases are adjudicated in court, not in the newspaper.

The information that the builder cited in the article recently had his license revoked by the LLR, and that they cited him for being professionally and ethically at fault for the problems, that they listed more than thirty breaches fo contractor failures to meet code, and that all those failuers were in fact approved by a county inspector probably wouldn't change anyone's mind would it?
Chandler was awarded the totally insufficient bond required of the contractor and was also granted leave by the LLR to sue the contractor's bonding comopany for anything else they can get.This all happened a couple weeks ago. But the fact remains that this family paid almost $225,000 to this ciontractor, based in large part on the fact that this incredibly shoody work was being signed off on by the county.For God's sake, the county guy signed off on a screen porch that had no screen on it.
Damn it Stan, you should call the county and give them a chance to refute the LLR's findings.

Zero credibility....you mean like when you said at 10:03 this morning in another thread "I'm gone too NIck"?...and yet, here you are posting again at 13:51?

-stringcheese

Well, when I saw that Nick stayed on as a moderator, I stayed. Gee, it's a free country, can't a guy/girl change his/her mind? JD quit too, but he missed us and stayed on. Frankly, I don't care if you or anyone on this blog thinks I have zero credibility. Do you think your opinion means anything to anyone?

Repub, I think you have credibility so don't feel too bad about what some folks think about you. I'm holding up my card with a big 1 on it now, just for you. When you grow up you may move up to a 2 and when you finish high school I will give you a 3. There, just 7 more to go from there and you will be up here with me. It looks good from the top of the hill. Is that you and Joey Ray I see way down there? Wave!

Repub, I think you have credibility so don't feel too bad about what some folks think about you. I'm holding up my card with a big 1 on it now, just for you. When you grow up you may move up to a 2 and when you finish high school I will give you a 3. There, just 7 more to go from there and you will be up here with me. It looks good from the top of the hill. Is that you and Joey Ray I see way down there? Wave!

-prevail

Now that is about as creative as you've ever displayed. Apparntly your fantasies are becomming productive. Just what does "up here with me" mean?
Are you in some lofty place that escapes the rest of us? From where you are, please try to keep in mind that a lot of us lowly folks are use to being looked down upon. But, we keep waiting for the day when the "low shall be made high." I'll see you on your way down ;-)