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From OpenSecrets.org:

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.

Despite McCain's status as a decorated veteran and a historically Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services overall -- whether stationed overseas or at home -- are also favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin. Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.

Seems like our troops know something about McCain that many of us haven't figured out yet: His military experience is nothing.  He has never had a leadership position bigger than his congressional staff and he's a cranky old man who will use force first, and ask questions later.
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You just have to constantly reinforce to yourself why you support that piece of crap don't you?

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Andrew's post is totally bogus. I don't usually say that about anything he writes, but the story uses the same tactic Ron Paul used earlyl this year to claim he was receiving more contributions from deployed troops than any other candidate.

I actually talk to a of of Marines on visits to Camp LeJeune and Parris Island. Mosts of the ones I talk to actually think Obama is a joke, but they're not laughing because of the very real possibility his inexperience may get them killed.

Now, it is truly possible that Obama is getting more campaign contributions from places like Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran - but those contributions are coming from sources other than OUR military forces. Wink

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JD, you know I go to a lot of military installations for work, matter a fact I'm heading to Sumter AFB today, and all the people I've spoke with wouldn't piss on Obama to save his life if he caught fire....

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Yeah, that's the impression I get too, Zn. Sadly, he may wind up being their boss, but it won't be because they voted for him.
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I hate Juan McCain but I'll vote for him b/c I hate Osama Obama more.....and I know I'm not the only one..What makes me sick are people like Hammett who support someone just because their party put them froward. Dumb Lemmings....

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Again Hammy post a full bag of .....well lets just call it a full bag of "hankey"

Mr. Hankey don't wanna end up like Lil' "pritty boy" Stanley with no place to blog.

ha ha ha.

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Andrew, If you actually spoke to more than one you might find most of the troops are tried of the long rotation but overall believe in what they are doing. Most of them believe being there allows another country to pursue the ability to raise their kids free of fear from "free speech", the right to vote (was you finger purple this past primary?)false imprisonment, beatings and murder to name a few issues. As a matter of fact any troop that outwardly speaks against their Commander and Chief is guilty of gross poor judgment. There is no free speech once you choose to serve, you follow orders and do what you are told and this is not a draft military so they all CHOSE to be there.

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Again Hammy post a full bag of .....well lets just call it a full bag of "hankey"

Mr. Hankey don't wanna end up like Lil' "pritty boy" Stanley with no place to blog.

ha ha ha.

-mr-hankey-the-d

Damn, Hankey, that IS funny! HahaHa!

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Andrew, If you actually spoke to more than one you might find most of the troops are tried of the long rotation but overall believe in what they are doing. Most of them believe being there allows another country to pursue the ability to raise their kids free of fear from "free speech", the right to vote (was you finger purple this past primary?)false imprisonment, beatings and murder to name a few issues. As a matter of fact any troop that outwardly speaks against their Commander and Chief is guilty of gross poor judgment. There is no free speech once you choose to serve, you follow orders and do what you are told and this is not a draft military so they all CHOSE to be there.

-janedoe



They did choose to be be there, but that doesn't mean they have to like it politically.  As long as they do their jobs well, they are free to disagree with Bush and his politically motivated war. 

Our troops have done an amazing job despite tough circumstances.  I happen to know a lot of people I went to school with that have gone to Iraq or Afghanistan.   Most of the troops that I've talked to haven't agreed with what is going on in Iraq.  Almost all think Afghanistan has been a just mission.

Judging by the numbers of donations from deployed and non-deployed military members, there is greater support for Barack Obama than John McCain in our military services.
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That is funny, Hankey. It made milk come out of my nose! You're killing me, man! really.

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Hey Hammett, looks like that left wing Marxist, empty suit, scum sucking, terrorist associating, racist, coke head, POS, pseudo-towel head you love so much and support for president doesn't give a rats ass about you....

http://www.wyff4.com/news/17205742/detail.html#-

1 staffer..... HA!

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Hi E-P, you aren't the only one with friends and family serving and I am not hearing the same thing you are.

Most of the troops I have spoken with talk about how our news here does not accurately reflect the progress that is being made, the relations the soldiers have established with the peaceful citizens of Iraq and failed to talk about the improvements that have been accomplish as well as how far they have to go. The younger troops get awfully cranky when they get stuck behind a desk in the Green Zone in support positions because they would rather be forward on the search missions clearing out the terrorists.

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AHammett-I know how you can really find out the truth- no disrespect intended but why don't you enlist and go serve your country like my son and nephew are doing - no better way than to see first hand.
My son says that there's not a lot of political discussion among soldiers but most of them are extremely supportive of what we are doing - he has found that when politics ARE discussed that many are really not aware of the differences between liberals and conservatives- they hadn't really thought about it. However, when he discusses liberal and conservative issues with them, even though they thought they were "democrats" they find that their values are more closely related to conservatives.
My nephew verifies the progress being made in Iraq - he has been an integral part of it.

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Con ed,

No disrespect, but tell about your political encounters when YOU were in service.
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Con ed,

No disrespect, but tell about your political encounters when YOU were in service.

-pappy

One does not have actually had to serve to talk to the ones who are serving now. What exactly was the point of that question and what relevance did it have to Andrew's hype about how many troops want an anti military Commander -in-Chief?

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Hot Lips,

I totally agree.

Methinks thou missed con ed's first sentence.
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Con ed,

No disrespect, but tell about your political encounters when YOU were in service.

-pappy

I didn't miss it, I felt it was inappropriate to ask someone to discuss their personal experience. Some vets just prefer to let things go and leave the past behind. I have a friend that was a war photographer. The politics of war are even uglier than making sausage and laws.

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Hot Lips,

I find it equally inappropriate to suggest someone enlist before making a comment about political attitudes among service people.

BTW, what makes you think that con ed's personal experience involves military service ?

If con ed is a  vet that prefers not to speak about political encounters while in service then say so. Apparently he/she has no qualms about relating those of his/her son's.

 I have honored requests about not talking about service experiences many times with friends, but have yet found any that won't talk politics.
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Military Veterans Favor McCain 56% to 37%
July 25, 2008
Voters who have served in the U.S. military favor John McCain over Barack Obama by a 56% to 37% margin.

This data, from a Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey, is based upon interviews with 3,000 Likely Voters, including 588 voters who have served in the military. Voters with no military service favor Obama 50% to 43%.

The survey was conducted July 21-23 while Obama was on an overseas tour that included Afghanistan and Iraq. Overall, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll showed Obama leading 48% to 45% (with leaners) over those three days.

But a separate survey also found that 63% of Americans do not believe the stopovers in the two war-torn countries made the Democratic candidate any more qualified to be president.

The same survey also found that less than a third (32%) thought Obama learned from his trip to Iraq, while 40% said his mind was already made up about how to deal with the war there.

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