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I tuned in to WAIM hate radio on the way to work this morning. The man most people consider the godfather of the naysayers (Charles Crowe) was pleading for people to turn out in support of incumbent Bob Waldrep in tomorrow's run-off election with challenger Raymond MacKay. According to Crowe, Bob's re-election is crucial to the morning radio crowd's long held aspiration to control County Council. Apparently, in the wake of the election two weeks ago, they believe they now have 3 solid pro-Cindy Wilson/Rick Driver votes on Council and Bob's would be a crucial fourth. And Bob has done nothing to distance himself from this negative morning radio group. Indeed, based on Bob's flury of negative campaign material in the past two weeks, it appears that his connection to Cindy Wilson/Rick Driver and the morning hate radio crowd is indeed as real as Crowe suggested this morning.

If indeed this election tomorrow is as pivotal and dramatic as implied by Crowe, then Anderson County District #1 voters have a rare opportunity to shape history tomorrow. If you discount all the unsubstantiated negative innuendo and hatred of Joey Preston that the Waldrep campaign has littered the landscape with in the past two weeks, the key issue in this race is and should be on the candidates themselves: MacKay and Waldrep. Waldrep appears to be beholden to the Cindy Wilson/Rick Driver hate radio crowd. Indeed his record of the past 18 months clearly supports their agenda as evidenced by their spirited (albeit highly negative) campaigning for him in recent days. MacKay has run a clean, issue-driven campaign and has demonstrated that he is his own man and not a water toter for any body or any political group. The negative people running Waldrep's campaign fear MacKay's independence and have thus pursued a strategy of (unfairly) making Joey Preston a boogeyman and (falsely)trying to tie Mackay to him. I hope the voters of District #1 will see through this ruse and reject the negative politics of the hate radio crowd tomorrow once and for all. Every vote matters.

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JC,

It appears that Crow and the other libertarians have figured out that not EVERYONE who was elected on June 10th is a Cindy Supporter. Oh willieh, what did I tell you, hmmm? I told you you DIDN'T KNOW WHO YOU ELECTED. Blindly pulling a lever in the opposite direction of an incumbent is not only dumb, but may prove to backfire.

Better count those chickens one more time there.

. . . poorly played game of checkers . . .

. . . political acumen of a dead sea turtle . . .

I love it when a plan comes together.

- SSHM

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Hmmm..... You are so good at predicting, I predict you are wrong again.

Let's face it. Regardless, what the new council did, we got rid of Bill McAbee and MGT. Larry greer was just icing on the cake. We have two years to figure out the rest. All we have is time.

Did I mention, that Bill McAbee got thrashed in his home box? If I didn't Bill McAbee couldn't even win his home box.

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How am I wrong?

Go call Crowe. He'll tell you he was pleading for folks to vote for Waldrep. If it's a pro-Cindy council, why is the extra seat necessary? Basic math will tell you that Cindy has a majority right now, unless I'M RIGHT.

Uh-oh . . .

As for this obsession with Bill, I must start referring to you by your real name: Roger Chillingworth. Such an obsession . . .

- SSHM

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I respectfully disagree with you on a couple of things.
1- I listened to the WRIX interview with the candidates and thought that both Mr Waldrup and Mr MacKay were negative.
2)Mr MacKay also used political "doublespeak" several times. He belittled Mr Waldrup for voting against the "Kohls" project. He failed to mention that almost all (if not all)the other council members voted against it also. But he wanted it to sound like Mr Waldrup and ONLY Mr Waldrup did a terrible thing in voting against it.
3- Mr MacKay said that Mr Waldrup voted against funding Tri-County Tec, against cost of living raises, against a new animal shelter etc. What he did not say was that Mr Waldrup voted against a $25 million dollar increase in the budget and that Mr Waldrup thought that enough could be cut from the budget to cover the salary incrases,etc without the $25 million increase. So in effect Mr MacKAy would have voted for us taxpayers to be taxed another $25 Million dollars next year. Does Mr MacKay really sound like a "lifelong conservatve Republican?

And how about the negative post cards sent out about Mr Waldrup. I realize that Mr MacKay may not have sent them out but he sure has not condemned them either.

The truth is that Mr MacKay is running (probably at the urging of Mr Preston) hoping to become another Mr Tolly. By that I mean a well respected man that can get re-elected each time with little or no competition. What he may not have realized is that the political climate has changed since the Tolly days.
I am not sure Mr MAcKay knows what he would be getting himself into if he is elected.

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JohnB
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5-2 makes the "mandate" stronger. 4-3, well, we'll just have to deal with it. Bob deserves to come back with a cooperative council. A council that is not a rubber stamp for an overpaid bureaucrat. Eddie Moore will be what we thought Ron Wilson was going to be. A man. R. Wilson will probably limp back over to the conservative side. After a little gnashing of the teeth, he will probably be cautiously let back in. But not trusted. He better switch from the darkside, because Rick Freemantle will have a lot more money and support next time.

Bill McAbee's obsession got him a whopping 39% in the election, and lost him his home box.

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BTW, calling someone a name that appears in 11th grade literature doesn't make you look smart. But if it makes you feel better about the way Bill got hammered 13 days ago, that's fine. And by hammered, I mean beat like a drum. Not in an alcoholic manner.

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. . . 'scuse me while I pick myself up off the floor from laughing so hard. Note how you have mandate in quotes. It's called your narrow perception of things. You HAVE to look at this in the grand scale. The slate of individuals that won won on the wave of anti-incumbency that flooded this state. Your folks will have to stand for something other than "I'm not the incumbent."

Be careful how you reply, as the incoming class, in a lot of ways, are not the great saviors as you make them out to be.

- SSHM

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Sad,

We read The Scarlett Letter in 9th Grade. Nice to know how substandard our education system in Anderson is. Oh wait, that's right too . . . Tom Allen kept the Board of Education in executive session all the time. No idea how well things are or are not going when you hide behind a closed door.

If you are smart . . . no wait, thats an impossibility, but I digress . . . you would do well to understand the dynamics of Chillingworth and how his obsession shares similar parallels to your own obsession of Bill. It's beyond political, it appears.

- SSHM

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JohnB1,

Point-by-point counterpoints.

1.) Both may have appeared negative as the line of questions focused more on the mailings that went out from Bob Waldrep's camp after the June 10th primary, rather than issues. In fact, if you recall, the mailing occupied at least a full third of the questions that were asked.

2.) No double-speak there. It is indeed a fact that Bob Waldrep voted against the "Kohls Project." It is also a fact that one man a county council does not make. Mr. MacKay does not, nor should he have to explain to the listeners that six other people, in addition to Mr. Waldrep, comprise Anderson County Council. To do so, IMO, is insulting.

3.) The fact is, between three readings, Mr. Waldrep was no closer to finding that "magic pot of gold with $25 mil" than he would have been had he just voted for the budget. It's nice to think you can find the funds and state that it is your intent to do so. However, when you talk and do nothing, that's called political grandstanding, for which Mr. Waldrep is an EXPERT at.

4.) Negative post cards? You mean the flip-flop mailer that Earnest Penfold posted? Go back and take another look at it. Look at the date to go vote. Hint: It says to vote in Novemember. Can you say PHOTOSHOP? I knew you could. Amazing how many people "opted to be stupid on their own time" with that one. Too funny.

5.) I believe Mr. MacKay knows exactly what he is getting involved in. If you live in this town, it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to ignore the political climate here. Remember: Mr. MacKay has lived here TWENTY-FIVE years, raised 5 kids, has served as a city judge, and has been an upstanding member of the community. After time and service like that, why would you NOT want to get involved in the community.

MacKay is both the right and ONLY choice June 24th.

- SSHM

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But, SSHM, if Raymond MacKay is the ONLY choice, it would seem his supporters don't even need to bother going to the polls to vote for him Wednesday. Wink

(I'm playin' with you, SSHM. Just playin'.)

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we all know what Bill McAbee's obsession was. YUCK!

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Did Chillingworth get his ass kicked by Tom Allen too? I am just asking. That would be the only parallel I see here. But, then again, who cares?

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Surprise, surprise . . . you never read the book either. Tragic. Get a library card and get back with me, m'kay?

STUPID.

- SSHM

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130 posts

Do you realize you use the word "indeed" entirely too much?

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Dressing up in woman's clothes?

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Are you talking about me, or SSHM, Yankeefan? If you're talking about me, I didn't use the word "indeed" in my previous post at all, and SSHM did indeed use it once. Indeed, that's probably once too often.

But "indeed" isn't like "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicavolcaniosis." If you use pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicavolcaniosis more than once in a post, it would, indeed, be too much, because a word like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicavolcaniosis probably should indeed NEVER be used in a post on The Cocklebur. Even once.

Indeed.Sealed 

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Yes, indeed. Indeed, I will work to limit my use of the word "indeed". Thanks.

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Jeez . . . have a Coke and smile, will ya?

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nah man, john cheese. He uses "indeed" to make himself seem aristocratic or intellectual. We all know he is a paid for democratic hack, who has not had a very successful consulting career. But, I digress.

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