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Willieh your partisan politics of exclusion are what is driving droves of young Americans to support the likes of Obama. Tell Hillary that Obama is just a fad to be taken lightly. People are fed up with the self-RIGHTeous Republicans who condemn everybody to the left of them and everybody that is capable of thinking for themselves. You hard right radicals in the Republican Party are sowing the very seeds of your own destruction. And as they say, it's hard to save someone from themselves. Not to worry, I believe mainstream Republicans will come out in District #1 next Tuesday and save the day by carrying Raymond over the top. That gives you rad cons five months to figure out how your going to pull Kevin Bryant, Billy O'dell and Don Bowen out of the ditch. As Zig Zag Zell Miller used to say about the Georgia Democrats, I didn't leave the party, it left me. Take note Anderson Republican leaders. You lost some folks at that last right turn. Better go back and get them!

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Willieh, I'm a bit confused here. Would you please define for me what you think a Republican should be, what a Republican must believe, to be acceptable to you? And don't spout back a bunch of bumperstickers. I'm serious here.

I've proudly called myself a Republican since before a lot of our regular posters here on The Cocklebur were born. But I voted for Jim Hodges for Governor a few years back, and I've given money to Democrats who were friends I trusted. Am I to be thrown out of the party for that? Was that treason? Because, frankly, if so, I just don't NEED or WANT your idea of a Republican Party that only accepts robots who toe a strict party line.

See, Willieh, unlike you and others here, I like to think for myself. I don't need somebody else telling me what to believe and what not to believe, or what to like and what not to like.

For example, I'm furious at John McCain and Lindsey Graham for several of their stances on various issues ranging from immigration to treatment of detainees at Guantanamo. But I will vote for both of them in November, simply because the alternatives, particularly to McCain, are not acceptable to a conservative (not Republican, conservative) like me.

What would I have done if the Democratic Party had nominated a good, Southern conervative as its standard-bearer this year? You know, a fiscally conservative/socially moderate type? I'm not sure they have one left in that party, but am I mad enough at John "Weathervane" McCain that I might have voted for that Democrat? Maybe. And you know what? It would have made me no less a Reublican, despite your twisted view of what we should and shouldn't do to maintain our standing in the GOP.

There. I feel better now.

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What you have done JD, is of no concern to me. Let me explain why. First, you didn't do this 3 months ago. 2nd you didn't offer yourself for office as a republican. 3rd you have never offered yourself as a republican running for office under the banner of being a "lifelong" republican. There is a difference. I have never given a dime to a democrat, but have cast a vote for one democrat. I have no idea if I will ever do it again, but it certainly wasn't Jim Hodges.

Raymond MacKay has stated that he is a lifelong republican in his mail pieces. I cannot find where he was a republican until he "said" he was a republican. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.

No bumper stickers here, JD. I just want cold hard facts that prove Mr. MacKay is truly a Republican. Unfortunately, like you I cannot vote for him or Bob Waldrep, but I do have friends in the district that can. I hope they make the right choice.

Let me say this. Mr. MacKay has the right to run in this race as a republican or democrat. Either party has to accept him or any other candidate that wants to run. That is state law. But the party has the right to call BS on any candidate. I think the move was bold and correct.

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Willieh, I understand what y'all are trying to do in the name of partisan politics, but it seems to me that Mr. Waldrep, a man who has changed parties several times, lecturing an opponent on Republican loyalty is very much like Bill Clinton giving a lecture on marital fidelity. Come on, now. You're kidding, right?

And just for the record, while I have studiously avoided endorsing any candidate in these Anderson County races I don't get to vote in, if I were voting in this one my vote would go to Waldrep. He has been an ally to Cindy Wilson in her quest for answers and accountability, and my personal read on last week's other Council primaries is that the voters of Anderson County generally approve of that effort.

Now look what you've done, Willieh. Both sides are mad at me now.Cool

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. . . we are we are . . . The Youth of a Nation.
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Basil is right willieh . . . your militant and judgemental approach to the Republican Party will bring about it's demise in its current form here in Anderson County. The road to Hell, as they say, is paved with good intentions. Your "good intentions," of keeping the party to the far right, and closing the Big Tent, are taking it down a road I fear you can't get off of.

The youth of this county will take it back, one elected official at a time, as time is on our side.

Waldrep first, then Bryant . . .


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You just don't get it Willieh. If the voters last week were expressing frustration with negativity then Bob must go too. Bob is negative, as evidenced by the desperate partisan ad he ran. Sweeping him out the door with the other incumbents is the best shot at completely changing the chemistry of the Council.

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I believe that a vote is a private matter for the person that will do the best job in representing my point of view. SC needs to no longer practice partial politics and hold open voting for all elections. It should also remain private and not sold out to anyone that wishes to do another harm.

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Willieh, Mr. MacKay made a posting on Sunday on another thread that you obviously missed. In it he gave his history as a voting Republican. He said he has voted for every Republican nominee for president since and including 1976 with the exception of course of the Edwards vote. In my book he is much more of a Republican and has been one longer than Bob Waldrep. I guess if you look at it, you, having also cast your vote once for the other party are pretty much right there with Mr. MacKay and many others of us who have also at some point in time crossed party lines.

If you need proof that what Mr. MacKay says is true then you can purchase via the State Elections Commission voter rolls from past primaries which is exactly what Mr. Waldrep's camp did. The sad thing is that Mr. Waldrep chose not to present all of the facts, just the ones that he thought might benefit him.

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Willieh

Here is Raymond MacKay's voting history for the past 8 years:

2008 Republican Primary
2008 Democratic Presidential Preference Primary
2006 General Election
2006 Republican Primary
2006 Municipal Election
2004 General Election
2004 Republican Primary Runoff
2004 Republican Primary
2002 General Election
2002 Republican Primary
2000 General Election

As mentioned, all of those Democrats he gave money to also became Republicans. I believe all of those guys were buddies with Bob Waldrep, actually.

As for giving money to Jim Hodges... if you think no Republican would give money to an incumbent govenor, you really are cluless. I can point you to a dozen hard core Republicans in Anderson who have contribution lists featuring Demint, Graham, Barrett, Sanford, AND Hodges. They aren't Democrats because of that, they were covering their bases.

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prove it. Those are just words. I need proof. We have proof of his democratic leanings.

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Which part little buddy?

The information about voting history you're free to purchase from the election commission. You Republicans have a nifty little tool called Voter Vault that has that info in there. That's how the Waldrep folks know how MacKay voted this year.

If you doubt the veracity of my voting history information, email me the real name of somebody close to you and I'll be glad to tell you how they voted as proof that I'm not making this stuff up.

As for Republicans who gave money to Hodges, I don't have time to nurse you onto the truth. Go do your own research on that one.

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Sure, go ahead, let the state limit individual freedom a little more, then let them do it a little more, then a little more, and more and more, lemme tell you thats a great idea there......Phhttt!!!

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Gah! Old habits die hard, Nick. Thanks!
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How about this for proof? Do you think that Waldrep would not have publicized MacKay's former voting record, if it showed that he had voted in a Democratic Primary prior to the 08 PPP? Trust me, he has all of that information at his fingertips.

The best proof that MacKay voted in only this one Democratic primary is that Waldrep did not publish information about his participation in other primaries. To claim that Waldrep does not have this information is to either be naive or to show just how sorry an organization the Councilman is running. It is called opposition research: invented by a man you may have heard of, Lee Atwater.

If you require any more proof than that, you are clearly beyond the reach of reason and of political strategy, good or bad as it may be. After all, are you not a member of the Republican Executive Committee? You know good and damn well how these things work.

Though I could suggest a new name for your sacred committee: The Supreme Soviet. The sorry attempt at a coup tried last night smacks of nothing more than a Stalinist purge.

Incidentally, do you think that what you did last night lived up to or allows for the possibility of MacKay living up to the GOP Creed?

http://www.andersongop.org/creed.htm.

The Republican Creed

I do not choose to be a common man.

It is my right to be uncommon.

If I can seek opportunity, not security,

I want to take the calculated risk to dream and

build, to fail and to succeed.

I refused to barter incentive for dole.

I prefer the challenges of life to

guaranteed security, the thrill of fulfillment

to the state of calm utopia.

I will not trade freedom for beneficence,

nor my dignity for a handout.

I will never cower before any master,

save my God.

It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and

unafraid. To think and act for myself, enjoy the

benefit of my creations; to face the whole world

boldly and say, "I am a free American."

Now I am no expert, but it would seem to me that the person who most clearly exemplifies this so-called creed has the initials RM. Is this too deep for you?

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PTBI,

Am I the only one that took notice of the fact that by the actions taken by the Anderson County Republican Party last night, the party has now gotten involved in a race, a race that is in the middle of a run-off.

Not only did they get involved by censuring MacKay, but they also, in effect, ENDORSED WALDREP FOR COUNTY COUNCIL. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the party isn't supposed to get involved in primary races.

Talk about violating the Republican Creed and the spirit of the party. Willieh, how low will you and other extremists sink to ensure that your political tent only holds those you agree with?

You are in danger of sending those fund-raising Republicans, those active and moderate Republicans to the Democratic Party.

Who would have thunk that Willieh and her cronies have been taking political lessons from Joseph Stalin.

Be sure to say hi to Ivan Denisovich the next time you see him there, willieh.

UPDATE: I found the new Anderson County Republican Party Party Song. Enjoy!

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Dear WomanWithaBrain, I do hope you reconsider the notion of leaving the Republican party.  While I do not agree with the censure vote, I do not feel that abandoning the party is the logical approach.  I do like Raymond McKay and respect him as a judge and as a person.  I feel that he has every right to vote as he feels best, but do see that doing this when he planned to run for office was problematic.  The Republican party meets my views more than the Democrat, but that does not mean that I do not agree that some Democratic candidates might be superior.  In the House race this fall, you could not find a finer person than Tom Dobbins.  I am glad that I am not in that district -- it would be hard to NOT vote for a person as reasonable, conservative, and responsible as Tom Dobbins. 

 

 

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and my dear friend, I respectfully note that "I will never cower before any master, save my God" means that a TRUE REPUBLICAN will not cower before the Republican party committee either.  Conscience is the issue. 
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