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JohnB, that's an unanswerable question based on information available, and you know that.

Whether you will pay MORE in property taxes in the next fiscal year or LESS has more to do with what reassessment to the value of your home than it does with the millage rate.

The bottom line is if reassessment left your property values exactly the same, and all other parameters remain as they were (i.e., no increase in school taxes, no increase in municipal taxes, the state's illusory sales-tax-for-property-tax swaps work the same as last year), you taxes should go down by a few bucks.

I would suspect, but have no way of knowing, that you'll see an increase in the assessment value of your home and property - which means you will pay MORE in taxes next year than this year.

But that's purely a function of mathmatics, not any attempt to trick you. Both sides of the debate are playing word games with budget details, but that happens almost every year.

I will say I think Anderson County Council's clever trickery in covering the Sheriff's Office's $2.5 million debt is absolutely AMAZING. Bravo! You think nobody will notice, don't you?

- JDTippett


Mr Tippett,
I did know that but I wanted to try to make a point.
SSHM said Mr McAbee voted for a tax decrease last night. What he voted for was a reduction in the mil not taxes (knowing full well that the reassesment would result in more taxes for most). My guess is that probably 90% of property oweners in Anderson County will pay more in property taxes this year. Mr Preston could not increase the budget if that were not the case.

SSHM hammers Tom Allen for not giving correct or incomplete answers. I was just pointing out to SSHM that he/she was doing the same thing.

As for as the sherriffs budget. Did anyone really think that the sherriff's department would actually have to pay back anything? Mr Preston and Mr Crenshaw cut a deal a long time ago. The good ole' boy system is alive and well in Anderson County.
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JohnB, that's an unanswerable question based on information available, and you know that.

Whether you will pay MORE in property taxes in the next fiscal year or LESS has more to do with what reassessment to the value of your home than it does with the millage rate.

The bottom line is if reassessment left your property values exactly the same, and all other parameters remain as they were (i.e., no increase in school taxes, no increase in municipal taxes, the state's illusory sales-tax-for-property-tax swaps work the same as last year), you taxes should go down by a few bucks.

I would suspect, but have no way of knowing, that you'll see an increase in the assessment value of your home and property - which means you will pay MORE in taxes next year than this year.

But that's purely a function of mathmatics, not any attempt to trick you. Both sides of the debate are playing word games with budget details, but that happens almost every year.

I will say I think Anderson County Council's clever trickery in covering the Sheriff's Office's $2.5 million debt is absolutely AMAZING. Bravo! You think nobody will notice, don't you?

- JDTippett



Oh...We noticed...
VOTE June 10th.
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I think you may be wrong on this issue JD. It is assumed that the milage rate will increase to $565,000 per mil from $511,000 per mil.

The milage rate is dropping 5.7%, because it was a one time increase for the Sheriff's screw-up. But the milage rate is increasing 9.6%. It doesn't matter how you do the math, you will receive a tax increase over last years tax bill. Well, maybe you won't, but those who live in Anderson will.

- willieh


Willieh, you're mixing up the "value of a mill" with the "millage rate." I'm not sure it's possible to have a rational discussion with someone who truly doesn't understand the difference.

But I've read most of your posts, and I suspect you know the difference. I think you're deliberately clouding the issue for purely political purposes. Am I right?

If I am, that's just as dishonest as that little postcard somebody sent out blaming the person asking for information from the county for the legal costs incurred by the county for fighting those requests.

Are you fighting them, or joining them?

- JDTippett



So, if the mils stay the same, but the value of the mil goes up, we may not have a tax increase?

That's like saying if Arnold at Arnold's Famous Hamburgers orders 100 lbs of hamburger each day, and the price of hamburger goes up, he won't have a cost increase for the hamburger. Even if he still orders 100 lbs., per day?

Come on, I ain't the brightest bulb in the box, but I know if my mils are the same as they were in '06, but the value of the mil goes up, I am getting a tax increase.

It's all a shell game, JD. We really won't know what the tax increase will be until after the June 10th primary.

But rest assured, there will be one as the budget stands now.

Even if we don't have a marked increase this year, we still are getting hit with an increase because last years was supposed to be temporary.

They just happened to make it temporary in the year before reassessment.

I'll bet you a dozen Krispy Kremes, that if the budget stays the same as last night we will have a tax increase.

- willieh

Dangit, Willieh, now you've done it. You've made me pull out the ol' calculator and THINK, and they don't pay me to think on The Cocklebur.

First, let me repeat: Whether or not you will pay more taxes after reassessment depends largely on what REASSESSMENT did to the ASSESSED value of your home and property. If it took a big jump, then, yes, your tax bill will probably go up. If it went up less than 5-10%, or went down, you'll probably pay the same or less even if County Council raises the millage RATE a bit.

I know some homeowners don't like hearing that the ASSESSMENT value of their property has gone up suddenly, but there's a bright side to that, you know. If your ASSESSMENT value took a big jump, that means your APPRAISAL value has probably jumped too, since the assessment value of your house is supposed to be, by law, at least 95 percent of its appraisal value after the newest reassessment. Some homeowners who aren't paying attention like to call that "government theft." Others who understand it for exactly what it is are smart enough to recognize it as EQUITY. (I like equity, don't you?)

Now, let's get back to that discussion of VALUE OF A MILL versus MILLAGE RATE.

The VALUE OF A MILL is basically determined by taking the total assessment values of every taxable property in the county, multiplying those that have an ASSESSMENT RATE (oops, new term there - bear with me) of 4% (that would be primary residences) by .04, those with an assessment rate of 6% (as in second residences, most businesses, industries, etc.) by .06 and those with an assessment rate of any other percentage by their respective percentages. Then you add those together and multiply the whole kit and kaboodle by .001 (one mil = 1/1,000.)

(There are some variables in there that I should mention before somebody else does, but don't let them confuse you: Fee-in-lieu-of properties, exempt properties, etc. And those things do make for a difference between the value of a county mill and the value of an education mill, since many of those agreements and exemptions don't include school taxes or taxes for other "educational" projects like Tri-County Tec, libraries, etc. I know I mentioned it here. Just ignore it. It has nothing to do with RESIDENTIAL taxes.)

So, taking all those numbers into account, Anderson County has estimated that the value of ONE MILL for the upcoming year will be about $565,000, as opposed to about $511,000 for the current budget. That means that OVERALL TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUES in Anderson County rose by just under 10 percent since the last reassessment. That 10 percent has only a passing relationship to your personal property values.

Let's use some easy numbers here, since ol' JD is an English major and complex numbers give him a headache.

Let's say that in the current budget, Anderson County's tax millage RATE was 100 mills. I have no idea what it really is because, again, even LOOKING at spreadsheets sends me to the Excedrin.

Let's also assume that if a mill in the current year is worth $511,000, and Council authorized 100 mills, that would have generated $51,100,000 in property tax revenue.

For the upcoming year, though, the estimated value of a mill is $565,000. Using last year's BASELINE number of $511,000 per mill, it would take only about 90.5 mills to generate that same $51,100,000.

State law prohibits County Council from just leaving the millage RATE at 100 mills, because that's what is known as a WINDFALL. The State doesn't like WINDFALLS when they benefit a COUNTY (although they used to get pretty derned happy in Columbia back in the 1980s and early 1990s when Earle Morris was Comptroller and he would suddenly find an extra $125 million or so in WINDFALL money those legislators could use to fund their pet projects. Too bad Earle lost his touch for finding millions of dollars when he was Chairman of the Board of Carolina Investors, huh?)

To avoid a windfall, the elected auditor and hired staff who theoretically understand these things estimate the new value of a mill, then point out to Council that they only need to charge 90.5 mills to generate exactly the same amount of money as they got last year from property taxes.

So, Council starts with an assumed working number of 90.5 mills - a 9.5 mill REDUCTION from last year. (As an aside here, ol' JD warned y'all a year ago that Crenshaw's $2.5 million "loan" that was covered by a "temporary" tax would disappear into the fog of reassessment this year. It did. In the hypothetical scenario I'm laying out for you here, it's part of that $51,100,000 and is rolled right into the BASELINE number with nary a backward glance. Clever, really clever, but I so saw that hidden PERMANENT tax increase coming.)

Anyway, back to windfalls and the budget process.

Starting at 90.5 mills and $51,100,000 from a year ago, Council can actually wiggle a 1% SPENDING INCREASE from a loophole in the law that allows up to that amount of increase in spending. Call it "Finnigan's Finagling Factor."

Additionally, they can increase more based on normal inflation rate and what they could have expected in increased tax revenues even in a non-reassessment year. Let's assume in our case here that would be 4% or so. (The exact number is difficult to pin down, so we we'll call that a "S.W.A.G." - "Scientific Wild-Ass Guess" - for now.) Take the 4% S.W.A.G. for inflation, plus the 1% Finnegan's Finagling Factor for a 5% increase in expenses. So 5% of $51,100,000 would be $2,555,000.

With the new value of a mill being $565,000, Council could add about 4.5 mills ($2,555,000 divided by $565,000 = 4.522) to the new BASELINE millage rate of 90.5 mills for a total of 95 mills WITHOUT RAISING A RED FLAG to the State.

Then, they have the authority to add even more millage for specified projects - AND AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ADD MORE THAN ANOTHER 5 MILLS to the 4.5 for normal inflation and growth, they still stay at or below the 100 mills they set this year AND CAN BRAG THAT THEY DIDN'T INCREASE TAXES.

Now, Willieh, you can't get all of that in a 30-second soundbite, but COUNTY COUNCIL can honestly say, if they keep the millage at or below the current year's millage rate, that they DID NOT INCREASE YOUR TAXES over last year's millage rate.

But assessment values have gone up. The STATE mandates those reassessments every five years (it used to be every 10 years.) So if your PERSONAL TAX BILL goes up, don't call County Council. Call your state SENATOR or state REPRESENTATIVE. They're the ones who make counties do these things.

Oh, and Willie, I still think you're probably the only one who reads this forum - other than, perhaps, a handful of county employees - who isn't confused by the above dissertation. You know exactly what's going on, don't you?

I hate lazy politics. If you're going to hammer somebody over an issue, at least explain the issue.

Here's are the questions to ask them (adjust it to reality, not my hypothetical situation I outlined):

QUESTION NO. 1: Never mind last year's millage rate of 100 mills. If reassessment has lowered the required millage rate to generate $51,110,000 from 100 mills to 90.5 mills, would not any Council-authorized millage level above 90.5 be a TAX INCREASE? If not, why not?"

QUESTION NO. 2: "If the 'temorary tax increase' to cover Sheriff Crenshaw's $2.5 million cost overrun last year really is temporary, shouldn't you be rolling back from the BASELINE TAX REVENUE number to give a baseline of $48,600,000 instead of $51,100,000? Doesn't rolling back from last year's MILLAGE RATE make that 'temporary tax increase' from last year a PERMANENT one carrying forward to every year from now on?"

Go ahead. I dare some enterprising reporter to frame the questions that way. And tell Gina and Joey I have plenty of extra Excedrin if they need it. I'll share.
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You will have your 2008 Tax bill in your hand before the election. So if necessary, you can use it to help make up your mind.


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Let me present a simple explanation of what I think the Council did last night. I could be wrong, but I'm sure someone will quickly correct me if I am.

The budget approved last night rolled back the 4.5 one time tax levy for the Sheriff's budget deficit
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JD -

In answer to question #2, I pose the following:

Did the council impose a TEMPORARY tax to cover the $1,000,000 that Cindy Wilson cost us ?

The answer is "NO" !

Did we pay for it in one year or will we be paying for it FOREVER ?

The answer is, "Since it was NOT a temporary tax, we will be paying it FOREVER !"

What did we get for that $1,000,000 ?

The answer is "NOTHING !"

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And just to be fair I will ask you the same questions about the Sheriff:

Was it a temporary tax ? YES !

Will we be paying for it forever ? NO !

What did we get for that money ? Patrol cars, bullet proof vests, other police equipment !

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The final question: Which would you rather pay, a temporary tax with benefit to the taxpayers or a forever tax with NO BENEFIT TO THE TAXPAYERS ?


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Buster, I wasn't aware that County Council was paying Cindy Wilson's legal fees. When did that happen? I thought they were only allowed to pay their OWN legal fees.

A "temporary tax" is explained at the time it is levied, as part of the budget. As long as a "temporary" tax is just that - temporary - and Council has taken the head for putting it in place, I don't care what they use it for as long as that purpose has been specified.

And, by the way, this bull about blaming anyone who sues the county for driving up the county's costs is just that - bull. Any citizen has the right to seek redress through the courts against the government, and the government has the right to either relent or to fight it.

IT IS NOT CINDY WILSON'S FAULT that Anderson County has legal bills. Perhaps they should find a cheaper local attorney who has a set of lawbooks.

Furthermore, as far as Freedom of Information laws are concerned, perhaps they should get some sort of copier that's cheaper than 25 cents or 50 cents a page. I mean, I can print all day on my desktop inkjet for less than five cents a page.
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Let me present a simple explanation of what I think the Council did last night. I could be wrong, but I'm sure someone will quickly correct me if I am.

The budget approved last night rolled back the 4.5 one time tax levy for the Sheriff's budget deficit
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Furthermore, as far as Freedom of Information laws are concerned, perhaps they should get some sort of copier that's cheaper than 25 cents or 50 cents a page. I mean, I can print all day on my desktop inkjet for less than five cents a page.

- JDTippett



I'd beg to differ JD . . .

Most inkjet printers fall between $50-$200, with the consumables costing somewhere between 25-50% of the original cost of the printer. You're better off buying a new inkjet by the time you hit your third set of consumables.

As for cheaper copiers/printers, I'll side with you on this one JD. County Information Technology needs to drive a printer consolidation project - moving towards a common platform where your costs are measured in tenths of cents per page, rather than quarters per page.

Before anyone says it can't be done, shoot me an e-mail. I'll be happy to elaborate.


- SSHM
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I'll bet you a dozen Krispy Kremes . . .

- willieh



Funny you mention Krispy Kreme Donuts. Anyone ever wonder why this southern delicacy isn't found here in Anderson, hmmm?

I have an idea as to why . . . heheh

Did JP cause that too?
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Apparently you missed where Mr. McAbee voted for a 4.5mil tax CUT last night. In fact, every council member voted for a 4.5mil tax cut, save one person.

Care to guess who?

(/que Final Jeopardy - answer in the form of a question)

Who is M. Cindy Wilson? [abstained]

Correct!

The vote was 6-0-1 . . . once again preserving her status of never voting for a budget. A-flippin-mazing.


- SSHM

- SSHM

God, Stupid, I am so glad we have never (presumably ) met! I would hate to personally know someone as void of integrity as you are. The 4.5 mil reduction you refer to was the one time levy granted Crenshaw last year to get his ass out of a jam. BTW, he still owes the county nearly amillion bucks from that fiasco. The reduction was automatic. Those who "voted for it" last night also voted for an increase in the budget of approximately $25 million during the month since the budget workshops began in April. You would say anything to gain points, no matter how big a lie. Stupid doesn't do justice to the ethical bankruptcy under which you function.
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Buster, I wasn't aware that County Council was paying Cindy Wilson's legal fees. When did that happen? I thought they were only allowed to pay their OWN legal fees.

A "temporary tax" is explained at the time it is levied, as part of the budget. As long as a "temporary" tax is just that - temporary - and Council has taken the head for putting it in place, I don't care what they use it for as long as that purpose has been specified.

And, by the way, this bull about blaming anyone who sues the county for driving up the county's costs is just that - bull. Any citizen has the right to seek redress through the courts against the government, and the government has the right to either relent or to fight it.

IT IS NOT CINDY WILSON'S FAULT that Anderson County has legal bills. Perhaps they should find a cheaper local attorney who has a set of lawbooks.

Furthermore, as far as Freedom of Information laws are concerned, perhaps they should get some sort of copier that's cheaper than 25 cents or 50 cents a page. I mean, I can print all day on my desktop inkjet for less than five cents a page.

- JDTippett

It is such a pleasure to hear from someone else who sees past the propaganda and horse s@#*. It isa a function, nay, a requirement of county government, to complywith state law, whcih is what the SCFOIA is! And if Joey PReston's crack staff can't do so for a reasonable amount of money, then that is an admission of incompetence. Case closed!
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Are you sure that there will be a tax DECREASE this year if the budget passes as presented last night?Without the spins and smoke can you assure me that I will pay less taxes with this budget than I paid this year?

I was not at the meeting and I have not studied the proposed budget but I would seriously doubt that Mr Preston presented a budget that was less than last year.

I was under the impression that Ms Wilson and Mr Waldrup (according to the George Duckworth show this AM) wanted to cut out some of the "fluff" from the budget but were shot down.
So let me ask you again as plain as I can...Will I pay less county taxes this year under the proposed budget than I did last year?

You have complained about Mr Allen not giving honest and forthright answers,so let me hear your answer.

- JohnB



JohnB,

Based on the current value of a mil, County Council did indeed vote for a 4.5mil TAX CUT last night. Well, at least SIX members of Council did anyway.

Now, since we have such a substantial number of "what-if(ers)" on the blog this morning, let me put forth my own what-if . . .

What if . . . County Council put a CAP on reassessment, thus providing a guarantee that even in the event of an increase, the increase would not exceed "x."

The problem with this:
SC Supreme Court Rules Reassessment Cap Unconstitutional

Based on the verbage at the Charleston County Website, and having not looked in detail at the SC Supreme Court ruling, I *believe* there is wiggle room available to provide, in the form of an ordinance, protection to citizens of this county from excessive reassessment.

- SSHM

- SSHM

Hey Stupid, if the value of a mil went from $511K last year to $565K this year, and that is a HUGE if, then that generates a little over $4.2 million in additional revenues based on a general fund levy of 75.4 mils. Where is the rest of the $25 million budget increase coming from? I mean, I'm jusdt asking . . .
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I'm still in shock after hearing about the proposed budget increase of 25 million. This council just doesn't get it that these are hard economic times. Way too much waste and pork to pass that budget on first reading. I predict this oversize budget will hurt "McAbee and the lot" at election time.
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Alot of crap has went back and forth about various council candidates. One thing stands clear. Some candidates, such asd Bill McAbee two years ago, ran on a platform of "promises kept." Among those promises was standing against tax increases. Now that McAbee is running for another term in office after eschewing his promises and voting for a tax increase, what says you, the cocklebur forum members? Did McAbee break his solemn word or did, he, as Buster pointed out in another string, just do what he had to do?

I for one think promises ought to be kept, and when they can not be, they should be frankly explained. McAbee is lucky to be running in the GOP primary against a weak candidate.

in all frankness, McAbee has not done one thing to fully and frankly explain why he voted to raise taxes after he promised he would never do such a thing.

Forget your animosity towards me as a person, just answer the question at hand. What justifies the tax increase after promising not to do so?

- coke_stevenson



Willie Horton McAbee voted for another tax increase last night. Willie Horton McAbee grew government by 17%.

He did this while going to Chicago, New York and DC. He spent our tax dollars (over $150.00) in a 4 hour period while flying back from NYC with Amy Plummer. All this money was spent in bars. Over $150.00 in 4 hours!

Our tax dollars are spent to drink. Here's the funny part. Bill or Amy must have had a headache while living large in NYC. They spent $8.00 on Advil ! Your tax dollars were spent on Advil ! How can this be justified. You are going to get a headache regardless of where you are, but the taxpayers should not have to pay to get rid of it.

This trip and the expenditures associated with it is nothing more than CORRUPTION ! I said it. I hope this trip is investigated by SLED and Mrs. McAbee ! Something seems fishy to me.

- willieh



Stop it please, you are giving me a headache.
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485 posts
Alot of crap has went back and forth about various council candidates. One thing stands clear. Some candidates, such asd Bill McAbee two years ago, ran on a platform of "promises kept." Among those promises was standing against tax increases. Now that McAbee is running for another term in office after eschewing his promises and voting for a tax increase, what says you, the cocklebur forum members? Did McAbee break his solemn word or did, he, as Buster pointed out in another string, just do what he had to do?

I for one think promises ought to be kept, and when they can not be, they should be frankly explained. McAbee is lucky to be running in the GOP primary against a weak candidate.

in all frankness, McAbee has not done one thing to fully and frankly explain why he voted to raise taxes after he promised he would never do such a thing.

Forget your animosity towards me as a person, just answer the question at hand. What justifies the tax increase after promising not to do so?

- coke_stevenson



Willie Horton McAbee voted for another tax increase last night. Willie Horton McAbee grew government by 17%.

He did this while going to Chicago, New York and DC. He spent our tax dollars (over $150.00) in a 4 hour period while flying back from NYC with Amy Plummer. All this money was spent in bars. Over $150.00 in 4 hours!

Our tax dollars are spent to drink. Here's the funny part. Bill or Amy must have had a headache while living large in NYC. They spent $8.00 on Advil ! Your tax dollars were spent on Advil ! How can this be justified. You are going to get a headache regardless of where you are, but the taxpayers should not have to pay to get rid of it.

This trip and the expenditures associated with it is nothing more than CORRUPTION ! I said it. I hope this trip is investigated by SLED and Mrs. McAbee ! Something seems fishy to me.

- willieh



Stop it please, you are giving me a headache.

- republikin



Maybe Bill or Amy still have some of that $8.00 advil they bought on the county credit card.

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Alot of crap has went back and forth about various council candidates. One thing stands clear. Some candidates, such asd Bill McAbee two years ago, ran on a platform of "promises kept." Among those promises was standing against tax increases. Now that McAbee is running for another term in office after eschewing his promises and voting for a tax increase, what says you, the cocklebur forum members? Did McAbee break his solemn word or did, he, as Buster pointed out in another string, just do what he had to do?

I for one think promises ought to be kept, and when they can not be, they should be frankly explained. McAbee is lucky to be running in the GOP primary against a weak candidate.

in all frankness, McAbee has not done one thing to fully and frankly explain why he voted to raise taxes after he promised he would never do such a thing.

Forget your animosity towards me as a person, just answer the question at hand. What justifies the tax increase after promising not to do so?

- coke_stevenson



Willie Horton McAbee voted for another tax increase last night. Willie Horton McAbee grew government by 17%.

He did this while going to Chicago, New York and DC. He spent our tax dollars (over $150.00) in a 4 hour period while flying back from NYC with Amy Plummer. All this money was spent in bars. Over $150.00 in 4 hours!

Our tax dollars are spent to drink. Here's the funny part. Bill or Amy must have had a headache while living large in NYC. They spent $8.00 on Advil ! Your tax dollars were spent on Advil ! How can this be justified. You are going to get a headache regardless of where you are, but the taxpayers should not have to pay to get rid of it.

This trip and the expenditures associated with it is nothing more than CORRUPTION ! I said it. I hope this trip is investigated by SLED and Mrs. McAbee ! Something seems fishy to me.

- willieh



Psssst...hey willieh, in case you didn't notice, but one of the two dynamic dumbos on council also voted for the budget. Why aren't you talking about BW's vote?
fanatic - member
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Let me present a simple explanation of what I think the Council did last night. I could be wrong, but I'm sure someone will quickly correct me if I am.

The budget approved last night rolled back the 4.5 one time tax levy for the Sheriff's budget deficit
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So, we can thank Bill McAbee for our tax increase. He lied, and I hope the voters will realize that he cannot be trusted.

- willieh



. . . talk about a scorned woman . . .

Can you maybe mix it up a little more, you know, so it does not sound like a broken record?

EDIT: So at least it does not sound like you are reciting from a prepared, rather unoriginal, hit piece as crafted from one disgruntled, former campaign manager . . . hmmm . . .

EDIT 2: If it were any more obvious to what was happening today, you'd swear someone hired Homer Jay Simpson as someone's campaign manager . . . D'OH!


- SSHM

- SSHM



You are just incapable of debating any issue without getting personal aren't you? And, your're a little paranoid as well. Big Bad McCarty is out to get you. Dream on Bill.
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Furthermore, as far as Freedom of Information laws are concerned, perhaps they should get some sort of copier that's cheaper than 25 cents or 50 cents a page. I mean, I can print all day on my desktop inkjet for less than five cents a page.

- JDTippett



I'd beg to differ JD . . .

Most inkjet printers fall between $50-$200, with the consumables costing somewhere between 25-50% of the original cost of the printer. You're better off buying a new inkjet by the time you hit your third set of consumables.

As for cheaper copiers/printers, I'll side with you on this one JD. County Information Technology needs to drive a printer consolidation project - moving towards a common platform where your costs are measured in tenths of cents per page, rather than quarters per page.

Before anyone says it can't be done, shoot me an e-mail. I'll be happy to elaborate.


- SSHM

- SSHM

When Waldrep and Wilson went to review credit card records in February, they brought their own copier over from the Council offices. Michael Cunningham physically restrained Cindy Wilson from making her own copies. That's a fact, witnessed by well over a dozen people. Earlier, he and Taylor Haystack Jones had tried to block the hall so media and citizens couldn't accompany Wilson and Waldrep to the room. That's a fact. These are elected officials, Anderson citizens, and credentialled media in a public building, and these two behemoths, on the instructions of our county administrator, thought they had the right to physically block their progress. Think about that folks.
So let's stay focused, shall we? Cost is just a tactic. The point is not to let the information reach the public. And think asbout that for awhile before you vote June 10. What is is that youcan't know, that the county administrator finds so dangerous that it must be suppressed? I mean, I'm just asking . . .
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