As promised, I am providing commentary about the political neophyte's effort at damage control and her massive 52-page (yes, 52 page) handout.
So just WHO is paying for this?
Sounds rather political neophyte-ish, does it not? Well, I for one, as a tax paying citizen would like to know who authorized the creation of this 52-page monstrosity for general distribution to all volunteer fire department officials?
Did I mention it was done on county letterhead? Oh … well … consider it mentioned.
In an election year, it is truly amazing how far individuals will go when it comes to re-election. Some folks will take steps to whitewash political blunders that will ultimately bring about their demise. Such is the case here with our resident political neophyte and her Achilles heel, the Palmetto 800 System.
Why is it necessary to distribute, on my dime (yes – that letterhead, I pay for) a mea culpa in the form of overwhelming documentation that only serves to snowball the reader into believing there is more to this issue that what is really there.
At the end of the day, the bottom line is this:
EVERY OPPORTUNITY the political neophyte had to vote on the Palmetto 800 MHz system was met with a NO or a vote of ABSTENTION (which, by parliamentary procedures, counts as a NO vote). Chalk it up or spin it however you like, the record remains, M. Cindy Wilson NEVER cast a vote in the affirmative to pass the Palmetto 800 system for Anderson County.
More on the packet shortly . . .
- SSHM
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At the end of the day, the bottom line is this:
EVERY OPPORTUNITY the political neophyte had to vote on the Palmetto 800 MHz system was met with a NO or a vote of ABSTENTION (which, by parliamentary procedures, counts as a NO vote).
- SSHM
"A vote of ABSTENTION" is an oxymoron. An abstention is not a vote, it is the refusal to vote.
The effect of an abstention depends on how the vote is to be taken. If it's to be a majority of votes cast, then an abstention has no effect. If it's to be a majority of the members present, then the abstention has the same effect as a "no" vote.
I couldn't find in either state law or county ordinance which method the council uses.
And, as a side note, according to section 4-9-10 of SC Code of Laws, Anderson County is supposed to be using the council-supervisor form of government.
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Well, in fairness to the constituents of unnamed politico and her district, I propose this:
When a situation or "crisis" occurs in THAT district, whether fire, car accident, Law enforcement or EMT response, which requires the utilization of emergency personnel being contacted or coordinated with the communications devices which use the Pal800 system, I would suggest they NOT respond in kind, an Abstention from responding if you will.....
It's only fair, wouldn't ya say
When a situation or "crisis" occurs in THAT district, whether fire, car accident, Law enforcement or EMT response, which requires the utilization of emergency personnel being contacted or coordinated with the communications devices which use the Pal800 system, I would suggest they NOT respond in kind, an Abstention from responding if you will.....
It's only fair, wouldn't ya say
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Well, in fairness to the constituents of unnamed politico and her district, I propose this:
When a situation or "crisis" occurs in THAT district, whether fire, car accident, Law enforcement or EMT response, which requires the utilization of emergency personnel being contacted or coordinated with the communications devices which use the Pal800 system, I would suggest they NOT respond in kind, an Abstention from responding if you will.....
It's only fair, wouldn't ya say- wyatt1sc
So, in your world dissenters must be punished by denying them the services they pay for. You have an "interesting" concept of fairness.
This idea should appeal to you: Require everyone that agrees with Ms. Wilson to wear an identifying symbol.... let's say....oh, I don't know, maybe a 6-pointed yellow star or a scarlet "A". That way the emergency personnel can easily identify the people to be shunned.
That should make your concept of "fairness" easier to implement.
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Oh absolutely Stringy! Every "A"-hole who supports CW and her foot dragging, paper-trailing, misdirection of impropriety leadership is due for less than exemplary levels of service and support from the taxpayers of this county.
Obviously those citizens in her district feel the same as she does, or they would be FAR more vocal and appear in open council to voice their agreement with the safety and service provided by a better, more coordinated communications system. And those same citizens would freely give her the abstention she gives them when election time comes.
I'll order you the first of those pointy thingys, what size you need?
Obviously those citizens in her district feel the same as she does, or they would be FAR more vocal and appear in open council to voice their agreement with the safety and service provided by a better, more coordinated communications system. And those same citizens would freely give her the abstention she gives them when election time comes.
I'll order you the first of those pointy thingys, what size you need?
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Ive always found it humorous when Charles Crowe and others hold meetings in and use the main library or civic center..
since they so frequently call them boondoggles and wastes of money...
since they so frequently call them boondoggles and wastes of money...
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And, as a side note, according to section 4-9-10 of SC Code of Laws, Anderson County is supposed to be using the council-supervisor form of government.- StringCheese
Anderson County did use the council-supervisor form of government when we transitioned into Home Rule. The purpose of section 4-9-10 was to make the transition to Home Rule in as orderly a fashion as possible.
Procedures were put in place to allow citizens to effect a change in the form of government in a county once Home Rule was established. Anderson County later chose to implement the council-administrator form of government.
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Palm -
Does Crow have meetings at the library ? He used to, when he claimed 600 CAVE folks. But that was ages ago, wasn't it ?
Now the CAVE folks could meet in a phone booth. I'm not just trying to be funny. Harvell, CAVE puppet extrordinaire, admitted that they don't have meetings anymore. "We just call each other", he said. So a phone booth might be quite accurate. As Driver says, you do the math...
Well, if they only had 10 members, that would require 100 phone calls. 100 members would require 10,000 phone calls. 600, the largest number the CAVE folks ever claimed, would require 360,000 calls. So, what do you think ? I think they have six (6) members.
Maybe it would be a large phone booth !
Does Crow have meetings at the library ? He used to, when he claimed 600 CAVE folks. But that was ages ago, wasn't it ?
Now the CAVE folks could meet in a phone booth. I'm not just trying to be funny. Harvell, CAVE puppet extrordinaire, admitted that they don't have meetings anymore. "We just call each other", he said. So a phone booth might be quite accurate. As Driver says, you do the math...
Well, if they only had 10 members, that would require 100 phone calls. 100 members would require 10,000 phone calls. 600, the largest number the CAVE folks ever claimed, would require 360,000 calls. So, what do you think ? I think they have six (6) members.
Maybe it would be a large phone booth !
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As promised, I am providing commentary about the political neophyte's effort at damage control and her massive 52-page (yes, 52 page) handout.
So just WHO is paying for this?
Sounds rather political neophyte-ish, does it not? Well, I for one, as a tax paying citizen would like to know who authorized the creation of this 52-page monstrosity for general distribution to all volunteer fire department officials?
Did I mention it was done on county letterhead? Oh … well … consider it mentioned.
In an election year, it is truly amazing how far individuals will go when it comes to re-election. Some folks will take steps to whitewash political blunders that will ultimately bring about their demise. Such is the case here with our resident political neophyte and her Achilles heel, the Palmetto 800 System.
Why is it necessary to distribute, on my dime (yes – that letterhead, I pay for) a mea culpa in the form of overwhelming documentation that only serves to snowball the reader into believing there is more to this issue that what is really there.
At the end of the day, the bottom line is this:
EVERY OPPORTUNITY the political neophyte had to vote on the Palmetto 800 MHz system was met with a NO or a vote of ABSTENTION (which, by parliamentary procedures, counts as a NO vote). Chalk it up or spin it however you like, the record remains, M. Cindy Wilson NEVER cast a vote in the affirmative to pass the Palmetto 800 system for Anderson County.
More on the packet shortly . . .
- SSHM
- SSHM
The political neophyte from district 7 is not the only one who opposed 800 Mhz, Kevin Bryant also opposed this system. If he want to involve himself in local politics perhaps he should run for council instead of the Senate.
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Every time this subject comes up I think NAASCAR is coming to SC. I am more of a Indy 500 race fan myself.
Didn't the Council vote and implement this plan? Aren't the Firefighters Union and Police Union aware of how the vote went? They are good at getting "the vote" out.
Aren't we here on the blog trying to teach a few pigs to sing? You never will change any voters here and they may just vote for spite on uncoming issues.
Just my opinion.
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Every time this subject comes up I think NAASCAR is coming to SC. I am more of a Indy 500 race fan myself.
Didn't the Council vote and implement this plan? Aren't the Firefighters Union and Police Union aware of how the vote went? They are good at getting "the vote" out.
Aren't we here on the blog trying to teach a few pigs to sing? You never will change any voters here and they may just vote for spite on uncoming issues.
Just my opinion.- Petunia
Petunia,
While we do share common ground on a number of issues, this is one where I can't seem to find it. The point here isn't so much as to change the minds of voters here. As we are well aware, this group of individuals, while generally open-minded, tends to form opinions quickly and stick with them. The point is to remind the others that this issue will not go away. This issue will be one of THE central issues in a number of local races.
Judging by the whitewash efforts of our resident political neophyte and the D1 placeholder's "outrage" over people questioning his vote on the Palmetto 800 (April 15th County Council Meeting - closing comments), it is no wonder WAI'm Out of Material has essentially given away air time for the both of them to talk.
While we're talking about the D1 Placeholder, let me elaborate on something.
As you are my elected official to County Council, I will question every vote you make. I will DARE, no, EXCERCISE my RIGHT to call you on the carpet over issues that you fail to properly represent me and the majority of your district over. This issue, along with your other political shenanigans (the dog ate my resolution, Mr. Chairman) are the reason why you have opposition and why you will be defeated at the polls.
- SSHM
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You are right. I really am on your side. I guess what I am asking is how can the bloggers help. I am not sure how we can come up with enough votes to change dist. 7's Council Member. I do know that there are several persons from the district that have stated that they are tired of Dist. 7's Council member taking up the time of the Council Meetings with trivia. Do we know some positives of the people/person running against the incumbant?
I sat through a long City/County Meeting about the EMS/Emergency services at noon today. It was worthwhile information but very difficult to decide on a plan before the other issues (Water, Sheriff's duties, and Street Paving) are discussed. (Four chosen areas that this committee has chosen to start this work on)
It is a slow process. I hope they will continue to meet and solve some of these problems. Nothing they do will be favorable to everyone but some sort of equity should be worked out to have the most people that use the service pay the most for it or have a "swap out" for other services provided or tax adjustments.
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Kevin Bryant also opposed this system. If he want to involve himself in local politics perhaps he should run for council instead of the Senate.- Shih
I'll be sure to let every emergency responder in Anderson County know that. Along with doing absolutely NOTHING substantiative since being elected, he worked against a communication system vital to our first responders....What a douche...
Kevin Bryant's term in office so far can be compared to a group of monkeys throwing poo at a piece of canvas and calling it art. In other words, it gives the appearance of activity, but there isn't anything worth a damn to show for it, and when you get up close to it, it smells like shit......
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Well, if they only had 10 members, that would require 100 phone calls. 100 members would require 10,000 phone calls. 600, the largest number the CAVE folks ever claimed, would require 360,000 calls. So, what do you think ? I think they have six (6) members.
Maybe it would be a large phone booth !- Buster
I think the phone switch would melt.....
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Wow! Stupid is going to exercise his right to question authority!! Kind of like Cindy wilson and bob Waldrep, huh?
Every time this subject comes up I think NAASCAR is coming to SC. I am more of a Indy 500 race fan myself.
Didn't the Council vote and implement this plan? Aren't the Firefighters Union and Police Union aware of how the vote went? They are good at getting "the vote" out.
Aren't we here on the blog trying to teach a few pigs to sing? You never will change any voters here and they may just vote for spite on uncoming issues.
Just my opinion.- Petunia
Petunia,
While we do share common ground on a number of issues, this is one where I can't seem to find it. The point here isn't so much as to change the minds of voters here. As we are well aware, this group of individuals, while generally open-minded, tends to form opinions quickly and stick with them. The point is to remind the others that this issue will not go away. This issue will be one of THE central issues in a number of local races.
Judging by the whitewash efforts of our resident political neophyte and the D1 placeholder's "outrage" over people questioning his vote on the Palmetto 800 (April 15th County Council Meeting - closing comments), it is no wonder WAI'm Out of Material has essentially given away air time for the both of them to talk.
While we're talking about the D1 Placeholder, let me elaborate on something.
As you are my elected official to County Council, I will question every vote you make. I will DARE, no, EXCERCISE my RIGHT to call you on the carpet over issues that you fail to properly represent me and the majority of your district over. This issue, along with your other political shenanigans (the dog ate my resolution, Mr. Chairman) are the reason why you have opposition and why you will be defeated at the polls.
- SSHM- SSHM
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...More on the packet shortly . . .
- SSHM
- SSHM
Hey, what happened to this? Still getting your "dux" in a row?
HAHAHAhehehehehe......*sniff*
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Hey, what happened to this? Still getting your "dux" in a row?- StringCheese
I need to set aside some time to finish it. Not sure if that will be in the next few days or not.
CV - I'm going to take you up on your suggestion. Thanks!
- SSHM
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As far as I can tell this is about who you buy the radios from - not the whole 800 Mz system. If the RFP was written so you could only bid the whole system then Tyco's bid would not have been allowed - thus non-responsive because they did not bid the whole project. I can't go back that far and re-read the bids............so again looking for a less expensive alternative isn't nixing the system it trying to reduce spending. Not a novel idea.
SSHM was going to put up the contract infor so we don't have to go digging through the mud. Don't see it yet.
SSHM was going to put up the contract infor so we don't have to go digging through the mud. Don't see it yet.
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If you really wonder about Tyco / MaComm look at the systems they have tried to install in GA, none work as advertised. Its a good thing we didn't entertain them it would have ended up a whole lot more expensive in the long run...
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SSHM was going to put up the contract infor so we don't have to go digging through the mud. Don't see it yet.- Greene
Fifty-two (52) pages with an old scanner ... twas not fun ... but it's done. I'll get the URL up shortly. As it stands right now, and to keep things somewhat friendly for our dial-up users, I've split the document into a series of PDFs ...
More to come soon.
- SSHM
PS - Political Neophyte and D1 Placeholder ... how is the support from the First Responder Community, hmmm?
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