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superstar - member
277 posts
Hey guys,
It's gettin close to budget time here in Anderson County. What numbers have you heard/do you think the budget will come in this time?? Will it stay around $122 million? Any chance it decreases? Reassessment is this year
fanatic - member
1337 posts
Hey guys,
It's gettin close to budget time here in Anderson County. What numbers have you heard/do you think the budget will come in this time?? Will it stay around $122 million? Any chance it decreases? Reassessment is this year
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superstar - member
520 posts
From what the article in the Indpendent said, it appears the budget will have economic development as its top priority. I guess we will all learn what that covers later.

With Abbeville and Greenwood counties having some recent success in these hard ecnomic times, it's probably a good idea to take a long look at ecnonomic development overall.

Perhaps Anderson should look at the success of others who have private entities take care of most of the economic development. No matter how much a budget priority it is, with the poison politics in the middle of it, it will never be what it could be. Anderson city now has a new makeup, perhaps now is the time to make that move. Look to Honea Path, Belton, Pendleton, Starr and Iva and combine resources in a private entitity.

I think public safety should be a "top" priority as well. So should infrastruture.



Here's hoping the council funds first things first, and then funds what it can with what's left without raising taxes. Hopefully, we won't get a false choice of raising taxes or not funding the Sheriff or not fixing a bridge.
superstar - member
421 posts
Perhaps Anderson should look at the success of others who have private entities take care of most of the economic development. No matter how much a budget priority it is, with the poison politics in the middle of it, it will never be what it could be. Anderson city now has a new makeup, perhaps now is the time to make that move. Look to Honea Path, Belton, Pendleton, Starr and Iva and combine resources in a private entitity.

- coke_stevenson



Joke,

You don't seriously mean this? The only real success is Belton and Pendleton. The common factor is BILL MCABEE. Politics requires a return. A return that BILL MCABEE has supplied politically and professionally.
superstar - member
520 posts
Perhaps Anderson should look at the success of others who have private entities take care of most of the economic development. No matter how much a budget priority it is, with the poison politics in the middle of it, it will never be what it could be. Anderson city now has a new makeup, perhaps now is the time to make that move. Look to Honea Path, Belton, Pendleton, Starr and Iva and combine resources in a private entitity.

- coke_stevenson



Joke,

You don't seriously mean this? The only real success is Belton and Pendleton. The common factor is BILL MCABEE. Politics requires a return. A return that BILL MCABEE has supplied politically and professionally.

- Shih



I don't believe I took anything away from McAbee. I merely pointed out that other counties are having some success using less money and resources and perhaps Anderson should be open to finding out what they are doing and using it here.

Besides, if as you contend, the only real success if Belton and Pendleton, then that makes my argument for a new approach. No matter how talented one person is, he can't do the job alone. The taxpayer in Starr helped to finance the economic development moves in Belton and Pendleton. Doesn't that taxpayer in Starr deserve having the same effort put forth in his community?
superstar - member
421 posts
Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have a councilman just as Pendleton and Belton have one. Perhaps their councilmembers need to follow Bill McAbee's lead. Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have the worst record I don't think suggesting looking to any of them is a solution.
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485 posts
Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have a councilman just as Pendleton and Belton have one. Perhaps their councilmembers need to follow Bill McAbee's lead. Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have the worst record I don't think suggesting looking to any of them is a solution.

- Shih



I would suggest that the other councilmembers stay far away from McAbee. You don't want to associate yourself with a loser.
fanatic - member
1262 posts
willieh,

It seems you have a "dog in the fight" so why don't you give us reasons that you would support your candidate rather than call a respected member of the County Council a "loser".

I have met personally with Mr. Mc Abee and had all my questions answered satisfactorily and I am not even a constiuent.
fanatic - member
3885 posts
A good starting point in revenue conservation and providing community safety & service would be CONSOLIDATION of city & county resources. Currently, Anderson County already provides more than enough support to the city endeavours ( fire departments, animal control & shelter costs, EMS, water & infrastructure support) and the county realizes little in recompenses from the city itself.
I would imagine that to consolidate all services under one "roof" so to speak, and cost control would surely be a significant long-term savings. A reduction in redundant operations ( similar to my thought about Anderson schools having FIVE independent districts instead on one) and related costs for multiple chiefs, administrators, boards, and so on down the line. That way, when the axe falls only one @ss needs to sweat instead of many
Anyone have some numbers they wish to banter around?
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superstar - moderator
614 posts
String cheese, if I may correct you. But Council does not set the millage rate. That is the job of the county auditor to determine what amount of revenue is generated by a mill. The value of a mill is 1/1000 of a dollar. The assessment ratio for owner occupied houses if 4%
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485 posts
Now, it is obvious that reassessment values of our homes will be released much later than the budget. (and after the primary). Council approves a budget in June and collects taxes on the assessed value at the end of the year. Assuming assessed values go up, which they always do, what happens to the extra money?

Will Council do a mid year revision, reduce the milage rate and take us back to where our taxes should be? Or, will Council sit on their hands and raise our taxes by collecting taxes on the new assessed rates and the current budgets milage?

Am I way off on how this is going to work? Are we going to get a tax increase without council ever voting for it?

Am I correct in stating that Council sets the milage rate, but the auditor attaches a value to a mil? This is a little confusing.

fanatic - member
2788 posts
You don't want to associate yourself with a loser.

- willieh



. . . and you're a winner how?

Ok ... now back to our budget and tax discussion.


- SSHM
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fanatic - member
1337 posts
String cheese, if I may correct you. But Council does not set the millage rate. That is the job of the county auditor to determine what amount of revenue is generated by a mill. The value of a mill is 1/1000 of a dollar. The assessment ratio for owner occupied houses if 4%
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Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. Jake: Hit it.
superstar - member
520 posts
Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have a councilman just as Pendleton and Belton have one. Perhaps their councilmembers need to follow Bill McAbee's lead. Iva, Honea Path and Williamston have the worst record I don't think suggesting looking to any of them is a solution.

- Shih



You avoided answering the question. Do those people, who paid for the development to happen in other areas, deserve the same attention paid to them, or should they be punished for whom their council member is? If you think so, I think you are wrong. Politics should not be a reward and punishment system. It should be above that. Surely, the county can not float if one half of it is left to sink because of bitter personal and petty politics. Other counties get that, why can't the leadership in Anderson get it?
fanatic - member
1793 posts
Coke..that is such a simplistic view of economic development..

NO amount of "attention" will bring industry to a region that has lousy education..low population density for a workforce.. limited sewer, water, gas, roads and electricity.. no easy/direct access to main transportaion arteries.

Like it or not, that is a simple fact. hem regional politics get in the way of common sense, then we all lose.

The better solution to "bring" economic development to Starr/Iva is to consolidate school districts so that all share equally in the value of new industry. Thats really the only reason the try and bring industry down there.
superstar - member
520 posts
Coke..that is such a simplistic view of economic development..

NO amount of "attention" will bring industry to a region that has lousy education..low population density for a workforce.. limited sewer, water, gas, roads and electricity.. no easy/direct access to main transportaion arteries.

Like it or not, that is a simple fact. hem regional politics get in the way of common sense, then we all lose.

The better solution to "bring" economic development to Starr/Iva is to consolidate school districts so that all share equally in the value of new industry. Thats really the only reason the try and bring industry down there.

- palmetto_native



I don't think we see things all that differently. You write of bringing school districts together, and I contend to bring all economic development efforts together under a private entity.

Though I grant you some points, I still contend that if the taxpayer in Starr finances the economic development efforts for Pendleton or Anderson or Belton, something is lost. I have yet to here a valid argument of why Anderson County should not do what others have done and pool town and county economic development resources.

If one thinks that can not be done, take a look at Aiken or Greenwood. The resources can be pooled and the poison of politics can be removed. The only thing stopping that is the will of the County Adminstrator and the County Council and town leaders.
superstar - member
421 posts
The last significant economic development project Greenwood had they had to eliminate property taxes t o zero and practically give away the land. Your idea of good economic development? We have a great system, incentive based produces results. Politics is incentive based, do a good job-get reelected. Private economic development doesn't work, Upstate Alliance doesn't work.
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