SSHM,
While there are no public restrooms actually on site at the White House, there are public restrooms at the White House Visitor's Center just a stone's throw from the White House proper. Also, the White House serves more as a residential and office to the President, and while funded by tax payer's dollar, it is not necessarily function as a public building.
However, I bet you can skip your happy ass over to the Treasury Building next door and use them to your heart's desire. And, as noted above, the Visitor's Center does have public restrooms and are approximately just as far as the treasury building.
The point of the matter, from what I can tell, is that it seems that the council would seem to want to deter the people from staying by denying them certain facilities that enable them to stay longer. I find it really disturbing that you'd be willing to back this up. I'm starting to wonder if you're for the cloak and dagger approach to governing with closing meetings and ever increasing security measures. I mean, if I have to ask the local police/security officer if I can take a piss, what is the difference between that and say a stay in the local corrections facility? I'm going to assert that its drawing ever closer in your way of running business.
Your superiority complex is childish at best. The rampant intellectual equivalent of 'ur a stupid-face' at the end of most of your posts is considerably trite at this point. Maybe -you- should rise to a level beyond that of simply calling people stupid and stop sucking the collective cock of those in power.
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SSHM,
While there are no public restrooms actually on site at the White House, there are public restrooms at the White House Visitor's Center just a stone's throw from the White House proper. Also, the White House serves more as a residential and office to the President, and while funded by tax payer's dollar, it is not necessarily function as a public building.
However, I bet you can skip your happy ass over to the Treasury Building next door and use them to your heart's desire. And, as noted above, the Visitor's Center does have public restrooms and are approximately just as far as the treasury building.
The point of the matter, from what I can tell, is that it seems that the council would seem to want to deter the people from staying by denying them certain facilities that enable them to stay longer. I find it really disturbing that you'd be willing to back this up. I'm starting to wonder if you're for the cloak and dagger approach to governing with closing meetings and ever increasing security measures. I mean, if I have to ask the local police/security officer if I can take a piss, what is the difference between that and say a stay in the local corrections facility? I'm going to assert that its drawing ever closer in your way of running business.
Your superiority complex is childish at best. The rampant intellectual equivalent of 'ur a stupid-face' at the end of most of your posts is considerably trite at this point. Maybe -you- should rise to a level beyond that of simply calling people stupid and stop sucking the collective cock of those in power.- TraceLines
Perhaps you'd rather have vagrants or terrorists in the bathrooms?
Wait, maybe it's so you can do some "sucking the collective cock".
The fact of the matter is that it's an office, a place of business, and WE don't pay for it to be a hostel for vagrants. If Rick Freemantle was denied their use, it's probably because he often resembles a vagrant. Tell him to go get a real job, then maybe he won't have to use the County toilets to shower.
I'm also tired of all this highminded talk about reverence for county government and its highly professional legislative and executive functions. The County Council isn't the Congress or the General Assembly and the Court House isn't the White House or Governor's Mansion.
Local governments affect people's lives more than any other governmental bodies, and since they are at the local level people are more closely involved in their processes. The people should not be excluded from actively participating in their government at the local level.
Local governments affect people's lives more than any other governmental bodies, and since they are at the local level people are more closely involved in their processes. The people should not be excluded from actively participating in their government at the local level.
Perhaps you'd rather have vagrants or terrorists in the bathrooms?
Wait, maybe it's so you can do some "sucking the collective cock".
The fact of the matter is that it's an office, a place of business, and WE don't pay for it to be a hostel for vagrants. If Rick Freemantle was denied their use, it's probably because he often resembles a vagrant. Tell him to go get a real job, then maybe he won't have to use the County toilets to shower.
- Danger Mouse
And they say I'M a potty-mouth
SSHM,
While there are no public restrooms actually on site at the White House, there are public restrooms at the White House Visitor's Center just a stone's throw from the White House proper. Also, the White House serves more as a residential and office to the President, and while funded by tax payer's dollar, it is not necessarily function as a public building.
However, I bet you can skip your happy ass over to the Treasury Building next door and use them to your heart's desire. And, as noted above, the Visitor's Center does have public restrooms and are approximately just as far as the treasury building.- TraceLines
I would also wager that if you were entering the Treasury Building in the post-911 world we live in, you would have to pass through a necessary and prudent series of safeguards, up to and including metal detectors, visitor's badges, and/or other measures designed to provide safety and security to those inside the building.
When I was last in DC, which was in 1990, a number of US Government Buildings at that time had the aforementioned methods of security installed. I would say its more than a safe bet to say those safeguards have been improved and expanded upon in 18 years.
The point of the matter, from what I can tell, is that it seems that the council would seem to want to deter the people from staying by denying them certain facilities that enable them to stay longer.- TraceLines
Psst ... the uncomfortable, cushionless seats in the gallery are more than sufficient to ensure a meeting does not last beyond the allotted time.
I find it really disturbing that you'd be willing to back this up. I'm starting to wonder if you're for the cloak and dagger approach to governing with closing meetings and ever increasing security measures.- TraceLines
Not cloak and dagger - not at all. In this day and age, good security practices and taking reasonable and measured safeguards to protect individuals is paramount. What would you proposed instead? An approach devoid of security where anyone could come and go as they please? An approach that makes it extremely easy to cause bodily harm to people? An approach that opens the county up to civil lawsuits in the event of an incident (you didn't provide proper security)?
I mean, if I have to ask the local police/security officer if I can take a piss, what is the difference between that and say a stay in the local corrections facility. I'm going to assert that its drawing ever closer in your way of running business.- TraceLines
You really need to get out more. You have the mindset of someone operating pre-911. It is, by my calendar, 3 April 2008. You need to wake up and realize there are rules to be followed. I really don't care if you do or don't like the rules. These are the rules for which we, as a civilized society agree to live and abide by to retain ORDER.
What you are advocating, in your flippant response about a security detail at a given business or government building, is a disruption to the order of things.
Your superiority complex is childish at best. The rampant intellectual equivalent of 'ur a stupid-face' at the end of most of your posts is considerably trite at this point. Maybe -you- should rise to a level beyond that of simply calling people stupid and stop sucking the collective cock of those in power.- TraceLines
Superiority complex? Now I know you are grasping at straws. For those that know me, this isn't even in the realm of possibilities. Now if you are attempting to take pot-shots at my education, go right ahead. It illustrates fear - fear of those who are educated. Fear of those who are for change and for maintaining order and civility.
As for resorting to profanity - I know I have won the argument at this point. When a response degenerates into a personal attack with no basis in fact ... well ... what can you say.
Go away. You neither contribute on the blog nor to anything of any significance in the community at-large, save feeding the undercurrent of civil disobedience.
Stupid, clearly, does not hurt enough.
- SSHM
Perhaps you'd rather have vagrants or terrorists in the bathrooms?
Wait, maybe it's so you can do some "sucking the collective cock".
The fact of the matter is that it's an office, a place of business, and WE don't pay for it to be a hostel for vagrants. If Rick Freemantle was denied their use, it's probably because he often resembles a vagrant. Tell him to go get a real job, then maybe he won't have to use the County toilets to shower.
- Danger Mouse
As long as said vagrants are participating and caring members of this society, they shall not be denied the rights and privileges afforded to any other citizen. Your support of a second class citizenship and unjustified paranoid fear of some 'terrorists' is exactly why the quality of democracy is slowly dwindling to the shadow of despotism.
As to your suggestion to lower myself to the trough of degradation along with yourself and SSHM is simply not something that I'll allow myself to do. I have too much respect for myself to dirty my knees.
Be careful of the government you support. You may suddenly find yourself at the end of their wishes and facing the same reclassifications that you so happily handed out before. Don't think you're impervious to government. Allowing an inch implies a mile. Precedence is very hard to turn over.
I'm also tired of all this highminded talk about reverence for county government and its highly professional legislative and executive functions. The County Council isn't the Congress or the General Assembly and the Court House isn't the White House or Governor's Mansion.
Local governments affect people's lives more than any other governmental bodies, and since they are at the local level people are more closely involved in their processes. The people should not be excluded from actively participating in their government at the local level.- Lee Cole
Sooooo . . .
Sign in with security, get a visitor's badge, and get involved!
Why is this concept so difficult for people to wrap their heads around?
As for this "high-minded approach," the rule of law applies at all levels of government, equally. While you may not like members of County Council, they are still a legislative body that crafts ordinances that govern you and me. There is a certain level of respect that is inherent when dealing with authority.
- SSHM
I would also wager that if you were entering the Treasury Building in the post-911 world we live in, you would have to pass through a necessary and prudent series of safeguards, up to and including metal detectors, visitor's badges, and/or other measures designed to provide safety and security to those inside the building.
When I was last in DC, which was in 1990, a number of US Government Buildings at that time had the aforementioned methods of security installed. I would say its more than a safe bet to say those safeguards have been improved and expanded upon in 18 years.
Psst ... the uncomfortable, cushionless seats in the gallery are more than sufficient to ensure a meeting does not last beyond the allotted time.
Not cloak and dagger - not at all. In this day and age, good security practices and taking reasonable and measured safeguards to protect individuals is paramount. What would you proposed instead? An approach devoid of security where anyone could come and go as they please? An approach that makes it extremely easy to cause bodily harm to people? An approach that opens the county up to civil lawsuits in the event of an incident (you didn't provide proper security)?
- SSHM
Sure, security is fine. But the hording of sheep should be kept to the sheep. Not to people. What I propose is exactly what you might be against. Yes. An open forum. What shouldn't be allowed is the ever constant keeper that allows and disallows things that should be constitutionally, nay -- naturally, mine to begin with.
You really need to get out more. You have the mindset of someone operating pre-911. It is, by my calendar, 3 April 2008. You need to wake up and realize there are rules to be followed. I really don't care if you do or don't like the rules. These are the rules for which we, as a civilized society agree to live and abide by to retain ORDER.
- SSHM
Order at the sacrifice of civil liberty is tantamount to treason to the founding freedoms of this union.
What you are advocating, in your flippant response about a security detail at a given business or government building, is a disruption to the order of things.
Superiority complex? Now I know you are grasping at straws. For those that know me, this isn't even in the realm of possibilities. Now if you are attempting to take pot-shots at my education, go right ahead. It illustrates fear - fear of those who are educated. Fear of those who are for change and for maintaining order and civility.
- SSHM
Yes. Superiority complex. The tone of your posts is a very down-the-nose approach to the use of the English language. I fear not your education, I fear your unceasing worship of written law. I fear you would have been the type of person in the Revolutionary War that would have given away troop movements and harbored the King's troops because it was written law.
No, I don't fear your education. I fear your ignorance to the fact that the hands of law grow ever tighter so that you may sleep better at night.
As for resorting to profanity - I know I have won the argument at this point. When a response degenerates into a personal attack with no basis in fact ... well ... what can you say.
Go away. You neither contribute on the blog nor to anything of any significance in the community at-large, save feeding the undercurrent of civil disobedience.
Stupid, clearly, does not hurt enough.
- SSHM
- SSHM
Civil disobedience to what I'm learning more and more is pervasive corruption in this county. While I'll admit that I am new on the scene, I will not leave for the sake of your unchallenged opinion. I will however, ask that you return to your stables, Sheep.
Sure, security is fine. But the hording of sheep should be kept to the sheep. Not to people. What I propose is exactly what you might be against. Yes. An open forum. What shouldn't be allowed is the ever constant keeper that allows and disallows things that should be constitutionally, nay -- naturally, mine to begin with.- TraceLines
Remember: The Constitution and the Bill of Rights is the FOUNDATION for which are laws are constructed and based upon. COMMON LAW is the outgrowth of court cases and rulings that help to better define the Constitution. Classic example: Eminent Domain. It's not spelled out in the Constitution, however it is law. More precisely, the Fifth Amendment elludes to the concept of Eminent Domain (which has its basis in English Common Law). This "hint" of ED would be shaped over the years by SCOTUS rulings, thus moving beyond just the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Specifically:
SCOTUS - Clark v. Nash (1905)
SCOTUS - Berman v. Parker (1954)
SCOTUS - Hawaii Housing Authority v. Midkiff (1984)
SCOTUS - Kelo v. City of New London (2005)
Order at the sacrifice of civil liberty is tantamount to treason to the founding freedoms of this union.- TraceLines
John Adams would respectfully disagree with you:
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
- John Adams (1772)
Terrorism and subversive acts endanger the public liberty. I, like our Founding Fathers, seek to preserve public liberty.
Yes. Superiority complex. The tone of your posts is a very down-the-nose approach to the use of the English language. I fear not your education, I fear your unceasing worship of written law. I fear you would have been the type of person in the Revolutionary War that would have given away troop movements and harbored the King's troops because it was written law.- TraceLines
I fear, no, I know I would have been John Adams. A patriot, our second President of the United States, and a man that believed in the law. He believed in it so much that he defended the British soldiers who stood accused of murdering residents of Boston during the Boston Massacre of 1770.
- SSHM
TraceLines....good posts!!! Keep them up but remember to write real, real slow so that SSHM and DangerRat can understand you better.
Interesting,
Tracey, I'm pretty libertarian in my views, and I certainly don't want to give up freedom for security. But there is a middle path.
Your statement of desire for an open forum demonstrates your lack of experience with humanity.
Bedlam was an open forum.
THIS is an open forum.
Neither one has ever gotten anything accomplished.
That's why Robert handed down his rules from on high.
As for the principles this country was founded on, I can assure you freedom and democracy were only buzzwords. Look no farther than the design of our electoral system. YOU don't even get to vote for president, in reality.
I'll agree with Lee, that our local government does influence our daily life a great deal, although that influence has waned over the years.
I agree that we should participate, and allow, nay, encourage others to do so also. But to do so at the expense of our safety or ability to get things done is... pointless at best.
As for lowering yourself... your post earlier accomplished that quite handily without DM's crude intervention.
I mean do we REALLY need such language, for F*** sake there' g**d*** kids who read this F***ing blog
Tracey, I'm pretty libertarian in my views, and I certainly don't want to give up freedom for security. But there is a middle path.
Your statement of desire for an open forum demonstrates your lack of experience with humanity.
Bedlam was an open forum.
THIS is an open forum.
Neither one has ever gotten anything accomplished.
That's why Robert handed down his rules from on high.
As for the principles this country was founded on, I can assure you freedom and democracy were only buzzwords. Look no farther than the design of our electoral system. YOU don't even get to vote for president, in reality.
I'll agree with Lee, that our local government does influence our daily life a great deal, although that influence has waned over the years.
I agree that we should participate, and allow, nay, encourage others to do so also. But to do so at the expense of our safety or ability to get things done is... pointless at best.
As for lowering yourself... your post earlier accomplished that quite handily without DM's crude intervention.
I mean do we REALLY need such language, for F*** sake there' g**d*** kids who read this F***ing blog
Perhaps you'd rather have vagrants or terrorists in the bathrooms?
Wait, maybe it's so you can do some "sucking the collective cock".
The fact of the matter is that it's an office, a place of business, and WE don't pay for it to be a hostel for vagrants. If Rick Freemantle was denied their use, it's probably because he often resembles a vagrant. Tell him to go get a real job, then maybe he won't have to use the County toilets to shower.
- Danger Mouse
Thursday, April 03 2008 @ 04:25 AM EST
There are no vagrants (or joggers) getting past the guard at the door. Preston's had all the other exits locked, so there's only one way in and out. Think of another - more believable story, Mr. Jones. That sleeping vagrant thing just won't get airborne. If that guard doesn't want you in the loo - you're not getting in.
Was there some part of this earlier post that you didn't understand, DM?
I would also wager that if you were entering the Treasury Building in the post-911 world we live in, you would have to pass through a necessary and prudent series of safeguards, up to and including metal detectors, visitor's badges, and/or other measures designed to provide safety and security to those inside the building.
When I was last in DC, which was in 1990, a number of US Government Buildings at that time had the aforementioned methods of security installed. I would say its more than a safe bet to say those safeguards have been improved and expanded upon in 18 years.
Psst ... the uncomfortable, cushionless seats in the gallery are more than sufficient to ensure a meeting does not last beyond the allotted time.
Not cloak and dagger - not at all. In this day and age, good security practices and taking reasonable and measured safeguards to protect individuals is paramount. What would you proposed instead? An approach devoid of security where anyone could come and go as they please? An approach that makes it extremely easy to cause bodily harm to people? An approach that opens the county up to civil lawsuits in the event of an incident (you didn't provide proper security)?
You really need to get out more. You have the mindset of someone operating pre-911. It is, by my calendar, 3 April 2008. You need to wake up and realize there are rules to be followed. I really don't care if you do or don't like the rules. These are the rules for which we, as a civilized society agree to live and abide by to retain ORDER.
What you are advocating, in your flippant response about a security detail at a given business or government building, is a disruption to the order of things.
Superiority complex? Now I know you are grasping at straws. For those that know me, this isn't even in the realm of possibilities. Now if you are attempting to take pot-shots at my education, go right ahead. It illustrates fear - fear of those who are educated. Fear of those who are for change and for maintaining order and civility.
As for resorting to profanity - I know I have won the argument at this point. When a response degenerates into a personal attack with no basis in fact ... well ... what can you say.
Go away. You neither contribute on the blog nor to anything of any significance in the community at-large, save feeding the undercurrent of civil disobedience.
Stupid, clearly, does not hurt enough.
- SSHM
- SSHM
Comparing the Anderson County Historic Courthouse to various Federal buildings in the Capitol is a bit of a stretch.
Every reader of this blog were all on the planet during 9-11, so why do you feel the need to bring the incident up again and again?
The scary security tactic is far beneath your debate skills. I'm surprised you would resort to such a shallow line of logic.
Indeed, those seated in the gallery are subjected to hard, unforgiving seating, but most certainly not members of council, the administrator or his attorney. Do the citizens get to ring the bell for recess these days?
Your Orwellian commentary is just the sort of reaction many readers expect from the undisputed champion of arrogance.
I happen to think TraceLines contributes as much to this forum as you do, and so much more. At least he or she is roaming the earth with the rest of us, while you remain seated high on Mount Olympus selecting who among us will receive the next venomous verbiage from the Sage of Stupid.
Comparing the Anderson County Historic Courthouse to various Federal buildings in the Capitol is a bit of a stretch.- troglodyte
No stretch here. A government building is a government building is a government building. Some may serve state. Some may serve local. Some may serve federal. Some may serve a combination of the two.
Every reader of this blog were all on the planet during 9-11, so why do you feel the need to bring the incident up again and again?
The scary security tactic is far beneath your debate skills. I'm surprised you would resort to such a shallow line of logic.- troglodyte
I have to bring it up because certain elements in this community are insistent in engaging in acts of civil disobedience and promoting a state of disrespect and anarchy. Those acts are mere steps removed from domestic threats. Would it make you more comfortable if I referenced the Bixby's from Abbeville County and their acts of civil disobedience and violence? Would that serve to drive the point (closer to) home? Security and maintaining the rule of law is paramount in a civilized society.
Indeed, those seated in the gallery are subjected to hard, unforgiving seating, but most certainly not members of council, the administrator or his attorney. Do the citizens get to ring the bell for recess these days?- troglodyte
From what I have seen in the times I have attended council, county council members will take a break during the course of the evening. While members of the galley do not have the authority to call for "recess," the collective movement of people moving up and down and towards the door is (usually) sufficient to prompt council to take a break.
Heck - I'd like to see someone spend money from their slush, er, rec fund to provide better seating in the galley.
Your Orwellian commentary is just the sort of reaction many readers expect from the undisputed champion of arrogance.- troglodyte
So now I am Orwellian in my thoughts and in my presentation? I actually have to thank you for that compliment. Why? Well, you perceive Orwellian as something to be associated with Big Brother when in reality it is not. Go back and re-read 1984. You will find another meaning for what it means to be Orwellian.
To call me Orwellian is a compliment. It means that what I am doing is reaching people and striking a chord - a chord for which the resonance you cannot tolerate.
I happen to think TraceLines contributes as much to this forum as you do, and so much more. At least he or she is roaming the earth with the rest of us, while you remain seated high on Mount Olympus selecting who among us will receive the next venomous verbiage from the Sage of Stupid.- troglodyte
Oh what little you know of Greek Mythology! I suggest you study more at length what Mount Olympus is and the significance of your comments.
- SSHM
No stretch here. A government building is a government building is a government building. Some may serve state. Some may serve local. Some may serve federal. Some may serve a combination of the two.
I have to bring it up because certain elements in this community are insistent in engaging in acts of civil disobedience and promoting a state of disrespect and anarchy. Those acts are mere steps removed from domestic threats. Would it make you more comfortable if I referenced the Bixby's from Abbeville County and their acts of civil disobedience and violence? Would that serve to drive the point (closer to) home? Security and maintaining the rule of law is paramount in a civilized society.
- SSHM
Its also scare tactic to keep people in line. Yes, everyone is at risk from terrorism at any given time. Also, it appears that every 3rd Grade teacher needs to be armed for fear of being ganged up on by his students. Does that mean that our young ones need to screened thoroughly by armed men at the door of the school building? What about the other students? Are we all to soon start expecting full cavity searches upon entrance to any building?
The point is, any one with the sufficient mind to do so will do any act that they see fit. Door locks don't stop thieves, they keep the honest person honest. Prohibition did not stop drinking, it created crime. Gun laws don't stop criminals, it disarms their victims.
From what I have seen in the times I have attended council, county council members will take a break during the course of the evening. While members of the galley do not have the authority to call for "recess," the collective movement of people moving up and down and towards the door is (usually) sufficient to prompt council to take a break.
- SSHM
But not required.
Heck - I'd like to see someone spend money from their slush, er, rec fund to provide better seating in the galley.
- SSHM
The best solution would be to provide seating that doesn't discourage people to sit through the meeting with the same level of comfort as those that are conducting. No need to spend money here, the council officials can seat themselves in similar seats as the galley. I'm sure they'd be all for it.
So now I am Orwellian in my thoughts and in my presentation? I actually have to thank you for that compliment. Why? Well, you perceive Orwellian as something to be associated with Big Brother when in reality it is not. Go back and re-read 1984. You will find another meaning for what it means to be Orwellian.
To call me Orwellian is a compliment. It means that what I am doing is reaching people and striking a chord - a chord for which the resonance you cannot tolerate.
- SSHM
Orwellian isn't a compliment of writing style or approach. Orwellian is used in a manner to which the author for which the term is named. Or, if you'd like a dictionary:
Of, relating to, or evocative of the works of George Orwell, especially the satirical novel 1984, which depicts a futuristic totalitarian state.
For someone who's supposed to be so educated as yourself, to twist such an obvious meaning is... well... shameful on your behalf.
Oh what little you know of Greek Mythology! I suggest you study more at length what Mount Olympus is and the significance of your comments.
- SSHM
- SSHM
Indeed. Only the Greek gods reside on Mount Olympus. I see you don't refute the statement that you've placed yourself there.
Its also scare tactic to keep people in line. Yes, everyone is at risk from terrorism at any given time. Also, it appears that every 3rd Grade teacher needs to be armed for fear of being ganged up on by his students. Does that mean that our young ones need to screened thoroughly by armed men at the door of the school building? What about the other students? Are we all to soon start expecting full cavity searches upon entrance to any building?- TraceLines
Many inner-city schools feature metal detectors, locked doors, and other protective measures designed to keep those inside safe and those that do not belong on the outside, to follow with your example of a 3rd Grade Teacher. Be glad that in Honea-Path you don't have to deal with the ills and issues of inner-city schools.
The point is: While it may not happen in your backyard does not mean it's not happening elsewhere. In addition, to put your head in the sand and ignoring the prospects of such arriving here ... well ... that's just foolish.
The point is, any one with the sufficient mind to do so will do any act that they see fit. Door locks don't stop thieves, they keep the honest person honest. Prohibition did not stop drinking, it created crime. Gun laws don't stop criminals, it disarms their victims.- TraceLines
So now anarchy is the answer? You would advocate not fighting entropy and letting everything fall into disorder and chaos? Wow ... just .... wow ...
Orwellian isn't a compliment of writing style or approach. Orwellian is used in a manner to which the author for which the term is named. Or, if you'd like a dictionary:
Of, relating to, or evocative of the works of George Orwell, especially the satirical novel 1984, which depicts a futuristic totalitarian state.
For someone who's supposed to be so educated as yourself, to twist such an obvious meaning is... well... shameful on your behalf.- TraceLines
What amazes me is your inability to use a search engine to discover what I'm attemping to point out. Since I know you (or any of your various aliases) ALWAYS have to have the last word, I fully expect this thread to get bumped. For that, I can thank you. Your ego will help spread the word that appears on the first page of the post.
Good job!
- SSHM
I'm also tired of all this highminded talk about reverence for county government and its highly professional legislative and executive functions. The County Council isn't the Congress or the General Assembly and the Court House isn't the White House or Governor's Mansion.
Local governments affect people's lives more than any other governmental bodies, and since they are at the local level people are more closely involved in their processes. The people should not be excluded from actively participating in their government at the local level.- Lee Cole
That's one of the best quotes I have ever seen on this blog.
I think some of our council persons think they are better than others. I think they put themselves up to the level of Congressman or Senator.
Good post
I'm also tired of all this highminded talk about reverence for county government and its highly professional legislative and executive functions. The County Council isn't the Congress or the General Assembly and the Court House isn't the White House or Governor's Mansion.
Local governments affect people's lives more than any other governmental bodies, and since they are at the local level people are more closely involved in their processes. The people should not be excluded from actively participating in their government at the local level.- Lee Cole
That's one of the best quotes I have ever seen on this blog.
I think some of our council persons think they are better than others. I think they put themselves up to the level of Congressman or Senator.
Good post- willieh
Well of course I find the quotation a weak argument. Respect for all who serve is should be observed at all levels. I am certainly no equalitarian but I do believe local elected officials deserve as much if not more respect as state and national elected officials. The local elected officials are closer to the scene where not only is all politics local
Respect is earned, Merrymac. I would like to respect my elected officials but unfortunately some of them seem to use their offices for personal advancement and freebies, rather than serving the greater good, and therefore showing no respect for the citizens they're supposed to serve. Respect works both ways.