A few days ago I started a thread that linked this blog to Stan Welch's column about Mike Holden's campaign fund issues. I also asked Nick in an E Mail why Stan wasn't responding to comments made about his article and Nick replied that he had not banned Stan. Stan informs me that he cannot post replies to the folks that raised points about his editorial and asked if I would post his response. I agreed to do so. What follows is Stans work as received from him.
Hi, folks! Everyone having fun blogging their little fannies off? I know a few of you are enjoying having free rein to say whatever you want to about me and my reporting. Or more accurately, and we all know how much ya’ll crave accuracy, my opinion column. You see, that’s what Seems to Me is. It’s an opinion column. It is by definition subjective. And in my opinion, and with total disregard for the Hatch act, it is my opinion that no county administrator, including Anderson’s, should be so deeply involved in the political process. But if they are, they should at least not whine when it pisses off the winners, who then remember who their enemies were.
In the meantime, folks, try and wrap your minds around the concept of an opinion column. It’s what Nick writes, sort of.
Nick has me in timeout again, so I asked Ed to post this on my behalf. I don’t know Ed, except through this blog and a few personal e-mails, but he has been curious about why I haven’t defended myself and he wrote to ask me about it. The reason is simple enough. Nick won’t let me post on his forum. I say things he doesn’t like and I, like Paladin, make Andrew cry. Nick doesn’t like that, so he blocks me.
I just wanted you all to know that, especially those of you, like Hoofinmouth 41, who managed to weave a few disconnected facts into the dumbest conspiracy story I’ve heard since Vince Foster, that I have absolutely no familial (that means family, Hoof) or personal relationship to any of the Welches who are related to the Feltmans. I wouldn’t know the Feltmans if I saw them.
As for Kee Kee, whose contribution to the discussion was her brilliant comment, “Too many coincidences in one scenario for me” (BTW, I took the liberty of spelling coincidences correctly, Kee Kee. Hope you don’t mind) just work on getting the stains out of Joey’s boxers and leave conversation to the adults, dear.
Andrew, you continue to mature and grow in depth of insight in a way that makes me so proud of you. Yeah, right! You grow like a bulb planted upside down. You’re a vicious little weasel who makes a lovely couple with that pompous little ferret, Jack Ruby. I have no doubt the two of you will produce a lovely litter of otters any day now. You know, the government “otter” do this, and Cindy Wilson “otter” leave Joey alone so he can lead Anderson County into the twenty first century or over the cliff, whichever comes first. You boys be sure and get your shots as soon as you can. Distemper and rabies are not laughing matters. BTW, Andrew, when you have to explain every “joke” you make, you should quit making jokes.
Paladin, I’ve been enjoying your posts. You have a mild mean streak and a sharp tongue that will serve you well dealing with all these well intentioned folks. Pappy, I couldn’t agree with you more. Stan the Man Musial was and is the one and only. I make no claim to his title.
Palmetto Native, hope that hormone replacement therapy kicks in soon. I especially hope that for Mr. Palmetto Native’s sake.
Lee Cole, a quick explanation of why I mentioned Bob Austin’s name, and not others. Last week, when I wrote the column, I also wrote a news article (Hoof, FYI, that one’s NOT an opinion, but is based on documented information) about campaign contributions. That article mentioned many names, but it was inadvertently not run in the same issue as the column. It will appear next week, showing, I believe, an interesting pattern of political contributions by those who do serious and lucrative business with the county. Is there a connection between those contributions and their success in obtaining county contracts? I leave that to you, gentle readers. I have my own opinion, but then you know that, right?
Let me say now, that the article is based entirely on campaign disclosure forms on file at the Clerk of Court’s office. Except for John Scott’s, which I obtained elsewhere. Let me also say that Cindy Wilson’s records have been reviewed, and based on their contents, her largest contributor was Ron Wilson, who also contributed to other candidates who were opposing incumbents on the Council. I can also attest that she has never received a penny from Swistock, Allied Waste, Jim Longshore, Keith McLeod, Jim Broyles, Marshall Meadorsor Marshall Carrithers.
Other than that, Palmetto, I can’t report on what isn’t in the disclosure forms, unless you have documents to back up your allegations. I’d be happy to see them. Receipts for signs, or sworn affidavits that people are receiving free copies of the Times Examiner? God, I hope they’re free.
Anyway, I’ve taken enough advantage of Ed’s kindness. I would like to say, however, that he has absolutely nothing to do with this post, except for his courtesy in allowing me to piggyback on his good name. I wish it weren’t necessary, but Nick makes it so.
Good day, and happy hunting! Oh, Peanut Butter says hey!
Stan Welch
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Stan Welchs replies to posters
If you believe that Nick has blocked Stan, I suggest that you ask Paladin to find him, or anonymous.
They sure do seem to speak for him quite nicely without being blocked.
They sure do seem to speak for him quite nicely without being blocked.
A few days ago I started a thread that linked this blog to Stan Welch's column about Mike Holden's campaign fund issues. I also asked Nick in an E Mail why Stan wasn't responding to comments made about his article and Nick replied that he had not banned Stan. Stan informs me that he cannot post replies to the folks that raised points about his editorial and asked if I would post his response. I agreed to do so. What follows is Stans work as received from him.
Hi, folks! Everyone having fun blogging their little fannies off? I know a few of you are enjoying having free rein to say whatever you want to about me and my reporting. Or more accurately, and we all know how much ya’ll crave accuracy, my opinion column. You see, that’s what Seems to Me is. It’s an opinion column. It is by definition subjective. And in my opinion, and with total disregard for the Hatch act, it is my opinion that no county administrator, including Anderson’s, should be so deeply involved in the political process. But if they are, they should at least not whine when it pisses off the winners, who then remember who their enemies were.
In the meantime, folks, try and wrap your minds around the concept of an opinion column. It’s what Nick writes, sort of.
Nick has me in timeout again, so I asked Ed to post this on my behalf. I don’t know Ed, except through this blog and a few personal e-mails, but he has been curious about why I haven’t defended myself and he wrote to ask me about it. The reason is simple enough. Nick won’t let me post on his forum. I say things he doesn’t like and I, like Paladin, make Andrew cry. Nick doesn’t like that, so he blocks me.
I just wanted you all to know that, especially those of you, like Hoofinmouth 41, who managed to weave a few disconnected facts into the dumbest conspiracy story I’ve heard since Vince Foster, that I have absolutely no familial (that means family, Hoof) or personal relationship to any of the Welches who are related to the Feltmans. I wouldn’t know the Feltmans if I saw them.
As for Kee Kee, whose contribution to the discussion was her brilliant comment, “Too many coincidences in one scenario for me” (BTW, I took the liberty of spelling coincidences correctly, Kee Kee. Hope you don’t mind) just work on getting the stains out of Joey’s boxers and leave conversation to the adults, dear.
Andrew, you continue to mature and grow in depth of insight in a way that makes me so proud of you. Yeah, right! You grow like a bulb planted upside down. You’re a vicious little weasel who makes a lovely couple with that pompous little ferret, Jack Ruby. I have no doubt the two of you will produce a lovely litter of otters any day now. You know, the government “otter” do this, and Cindy Wilson “otter” leave Joey alone so he can lead Anderson County into the twenty first century or over the cliff, whichever comes first. You boys be sure and get your shots as soon as you can. Distemper and rabies are not laughing matters. BTW, Andrew, when you have to explain every “joke” you make, you should quit making jokes.
Paladin, I’ve been enjoying your posts. You have a mild mean streak and a sharp tongue that will serve you well dealing with all these well intentioned folks. Pappy, I couldn’t agree with you more. Stan the Man Musial was and is the one and only. I make no claim to his title.
Palmetto Native, hope that hormone replacement therapy kicks in soon. I especially hope that for Mr. Palmetto Native’s sake.
Lee Cole, a quick explanation of why I mentioned Bob Austin’s name, and not others. Last week, when I wrote the column, I also wrote a news article (Hoof, FYI, that one’s NOT an opinion, but is based on documented information) about campaign contributions. That article mentioned many names, but it was inadvertently not run in the same issue as the column. It will appear next week, showing, I believe, an interesting pattern of political contributions by those who do serious and lucrative business with the county. Is there a connection between those contributions and their success in obtaining county contracts? I leave that to you, gentle readers. I have my own opinion, but then you know that, right?
Let me say now, that the article is based entirely on campaign disclosure forms on file at the Clerk of Court’s office. Except for John Scott’s, which I obtained elsewhere. Let me also say that Cindy Wilson’s records have been reviewed, and based on their contents, her largest contributor was Ron Wilson, who also contributed to other candidates who were opposing incumbents on the Council. I can also attest that she has never received a penny from Swistock, Allied Waste, Jim Longshore, Keith McLeod, Jim Broyles, Marshall Meadorsor Marshall Carrithers.
Other than that, Palmetto, I can’t report on what isn’t in the disclosure forms, unless you have documents to back up your allegations. I’d be happy to see them. Receipts for signs, or sworn affidavits that people are receiving free copies of the Times Examiner? God, I hope they’re free.
Anyway, I’ve taken enough advantage of Ed’s kindness. I would like to say, however, that he has absolutely nothing to do with this post, except for his courtesy in allowing me to piggyback on his good name. I wish it weren’t necessary, but Nick makes it so.
Good day, and happy hunting! Oh, Peanut Butter says hey!
Stan Welch
- ed evans
Boy Stan, you really told me didn't you. As for the underwear comment. When this INVESTGATION comes off the Solicitors desk, and trust me it will. The only person that's going to need their underwear cleaned is you.
A few days ago I started a thread that linked this blog to Stan Welch's column about Mike Holden's campaign fund issues. I also asked Nick in an E Mail why Stan wasn't responding to comments made about his article and Nick replied that he had not banned Stan. Stan informs me that he cannot post replies to the folks that raised points about his editorial and asked if I would post his response. I agreed to do so. What follows is Stans work as received from him.
Hi, folks! Everyone having fun blogging their little fannies off? I know a few of you are enjoying having free rein to say whatever you want to about me and my reporting. Or more accurately, and we all know how much ya’ll crave accuracy, my opinion column. You see, that’s what Seems to Me is. It’s an opinion column. It is by definition subjective. And in my opinion, and with total disregard for the Hatch act, it is my opinion that no county administrator, including Anderson’s, should be so deeply involved in the political process. But if they are, they should at least not whine when it pisses off the winners, who then remember who their enemies were.
In the meantime, folks, try and wrap your minds around the concept of an opinion column. It’s what Nick writes, sort of.
Nick has me in timeout again, so I asked Ed to post this on my behalf. I don’t know Ed, except through this blog and a few personal e-mails, but he has been curious about why I haven’t defended myself and he wrote to ask me about it. The reason is simple enough. Nick won’t let me post on his forum. I say things he doesn’t like and I, like Paladin, make Andrew cry. Nick doesn’t like that, so he blocks me.
I just wanted you all to know that, especially those of you, like Hoofinmouth 41, who managed to weave a few disconnected facts into the dumbest conspiracy story I’ve heard since Vince Foster, that I have absolutely no familial (that means family, Hoof) or personal relationship to any of the Welches who are related to the Feltmans. I wouldn’t know the Feltmans if I saw them.
As for Kee Kee, whose contribution to the discussion was her brilliant comment, “Too many coincidences in one scenario for me” (BTW, I took the liberty of spelling coincidences correctly, Kee Kee. Hope you don’t mind) just work on getting the stains out of Joey’s boxers and leave conversation to the adults, dear.
Andrew, you continue to mature and grow in depth of insight in a way that makes me so proud of you. Yeah, right! You grow like a bulb planted upside down. You’re a vicious little weasel who makes a lovely couple with that pompous little ferret, Jack Ruby. I have no doubt the two of you will produce a lovely litter of otters any day now. You know, the government “otter” do this, and Cindy Wilson “otter” leave Joey alone so he can lead Anderson County into the twenty first century or over the cliff, whichever comes first. You boys be sure and get your shots as soon as you can. Distemper and rabies are not laughing matters. BTW, Andrew, when you have to explain every “joke” you make, you should quit making jokes.
Paladin, I’ve been enjoying your posts. You have a mild mean streak and a sharp tongue that will serve you well dealing with all these well intentioned folks. Pappy, I couldn’t agree with you more. Stan the Man Musial was and is the one and only. I make no claim to his title.
Palmetto Native, hope that hormone replacement therapy kicks in soon. I especially hope that for Mr. Palmetto Native’s sake.
Lee Cole, a quick explanation of why I mentioned Bob Austin’s name, and not others. Last week, when I wrote the column, I also wrote a news article (Hoof, FYI, that one’s NOT an opinion, but is based on documented information) about campaign contributions. That article mentioned many names, but it was inadvertently not run in the same issue as the column. It will appear next week, showing, I believe, an interesting pattern of political contributions by those who do serious and lucrative business with the county. Is there a connection between those contributions and their success in obtaining county contracts? I leave that to you, gentle readers. I have my own opinion, but then you know that, right?
Let me say now, that the article is based entirely on campaign disclosure forms on file at the Clerk of Court’s office. Except for John Scott’s, which I obtained elsewhere. Let me also say that Cindy Wilson’s records have been reviewed, and based on their contents, her largest contributor was Ron Wilson, who also contributed to other candidates who were opposing incumbents on the Council. I can also attest that she has never received a penny from Swistock, Allied Waste, Jim Longshore, Keith McLeod, Jim Broyles, Marshall Meadorsor Marshall Carrithers.
Other than that, Palmetto, I can’t report on what isn’t in the disclosure forms, unless you have documents to back up your allegations. I’d be happy to see them. Receipts for signs, or sworn affidavits that people are receiving free copies of the Times Examiner? God, I hope they’re free.
Anyway, I’ve taken enough advantage of Ed’s kindness. I would like to say, however, that he has absolutely nothing to do with this post, except for his courtesy in allowing me to piggyback on his good name. I wish it weren’t necessary, but Nick makes it so.
Good day, and happy hunting! Oh, Peanut Butter says hey!
Stan Welch
- ed evans
Boy Stan, you really told me didn't you. As for the underwear comment. When this INVESTGATION comes off the Solicitors desk, and trust me it will. The only person that's going to need their underwear cleaned is you.- KeeKee
THIS IS TOTALLY BOGUS! Stan Welch is unblocked. He can post whatever drivel he chooses.
Perhaps it is all just the voices in Ed's head
j/k Ed, I wouldn't curse you to having Stan's voice in your head
j/k Ed, I wouldn't curse you to having Stan's voice in your head
Nick: I forwarded your mail to Stan that said he was not blocked. Apparently he could not post. Like any good journalist, he is never at a loss for words and I'm sure if he could have posted he would have.
And Jack
And Jack
BS is exactly what describes this ridiculous situation, not surprisingly.
I am copying this email I found in my email from Stan Welch.
(Note the time and the day it was sent, 8:38 p.m. Friday. And also be advised that I had received no other email from him since I unblocked him several weeks ago):
STAN:
"Nick, I have waited for three days now for you to do the right thing and allow me to post in defense of myself and my professional conduct, OR to kill the threads that are taking such cheap shots at me.
Not surprisingly, you have done neither. Everything I try to post is rejected as SPAM or I am told I have to register. When I try to register, I am told that my e-mail address is already in use. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, vis-a-vis intellectual integrity, but you continue to prove me wrong.
Allow me to respond to the mental pygmies who make up your tribe, and I will ask nothing more.
Continue to refuse to allow me to respond, and I must demand that you discontinue any thread which attacks me professionally. If you do not, I will take any and all actions available to me to protect my professional reputation, no matter what you may think of that reputation personally.
Stan Welch
HERE IS MY RESPONSE:
Stan: Good journalistic practice is to ask question, gather facts, and then draw conclusions.
It is not my fault that the technology of the system allows only one email address per account. Had I known that you had forgotten which one of your many pseduonyms you were planning to use, I might have been able to help. Instead, you just go assuming ... and assuming ... and assuming.
When you send me an email, give me a reasonable opportunity to respond. Not anwsering an email sent at 8:38 p.m. on a Friday isn't exactly fair is it? I'm sending you a registration as StanWelch and you can defend yourself all you want ...just as I said several weeks ago.
(Registration information withheld)
Happy self-defensing
N.
I am copying this email I found in my email from Stan Welch.
(Note the time and the day it was sent, 8:38 p.m. Friday. And also be advised that I had received no other email from him since I unblocked him several weeks ago):
STAN:
"Nick, I have waited for three days now for you to do the right thing and allow me to post in defense of myself and my professional conduct, OR to kill the threads that are taking such cheap shots at me.
Not surprisingly, you have done neither. Everything I try to post is rejected as SPAM or I am told I have to register. When I try to register, I am told that my e-mail address is already in use. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, vis-a-vis intellectual integrity, but you continue to prove me wrong.
Allow me to respond to the mental pygmies who make up your tribe, and I will ask nothing more.
Continue to refuse to allow me to respond, and I must demand that you discontinue any thread which attacks me professionally. If you do not, I will take any and all actions available to me to protect my professional reputation, no matter what you may think of that reputation personally.
Stan Welch
HERE IS MY RESPONSE:
Stan: Good journalistic practice is to ask question, gather facts, and then draw conclusions.
It is not my fault that the technology of the system allows only one email address per account. Had I known that you had forgotten which one of your many pseduonyms you were planning to use, I might have been able to help. Instead, you just go assuming ... and assuming ... and assuming.
When you send me an email, give me a reasonable opportunity to respond. Not anwsering an email sent at 8:38 p.m. on a Friday isn't exactly fair is it? I'm sending you a registration as StanWelch and you can defend yourself all you want ...just as I said several weeks ago.
(Registration information withheld)
Happy self-defensing
N.
Nick: I forwarded your mail to Stan that said he was not blocked. Apparently he could not post. Like any good journalist, he is never at a loss for words and I'm sure if he could have posted he would have.
And Jack
Nick: I forwarded your mail to Stan that said he was not blocked. Apparently he could not post. Like any good journalist, he is never at a loss for words and I'm sure if he could have posted he would have.
And Jack
HERE IS MY RESPONSE:
Stan: Good journalistic practice is to ask question, gather facts, and then draw conclusions.----
N.- NickCharalambous
uhhhhh....No, drawing conclusions for the reader is inserting bias into the reporting and not good practice but overlooked if you work for the New York Times. True good journalistic practice would be gathering the facts and reporting just on the facts and leaving out ones biased conclusions, therefore letting the reader draw their own conclusion from the facts presented. Simply put good journalistic practice is the unequivocal separation of news and opinion.
zn, why are you reviving threads that haven't had a post in almost a year just to make nonsensical comments?
Just becasue i stumbled upon it and I friggin felt like it, who needs your ****ing approval anyway Tippett?
Nobody, zn. I was just asking. I do a little cabinetry work and use a lot of glue, so I can always find a use for a dead horse.
I'm also a mentor for thin-skinned adolescents who lack social skills. Perhaps I could help you at some point in the future?
Maybe you should open the windows when working with that glue. You know that stuff kills brain cells by the billions...
It was my understanding that if anyone gave or needed to hand out approvals, it was the almighty master of internet and old links himself, SSHM.
Maybe I was mistaken.
Maybe I was mistaken.
Nick: I forwarded your mail to Stan that said he was not blocked. Apparently he could not post. Like any good journalist, he is never at a loss for words and I'm sure if he could have posted he would have.
And Jack
BS is exactly what describes this ridiculous situation, not surprisingly.
I am copying this email I found in my email from Stan Welch.
(Note the time and the day it was sent, 8:38 p.m. Friday. And also be advised that I had received no other email from him since I unblocked him several weeks ago):
STAN:
"Nick, I have waited for three days now for you to do the right thing and allow me to post in defense of myself and my professional conduct, OR to kill the threads that are taking such cheap shots at me.
Not surprisingly, you have done neither. Everything I try to post is rejected as SPAM or I am told I have to register. When I try to register, I am told that my e-mail address is already in use. I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, vis-a-vis intellectual integrity, but you continue to prove me wrong.
Allow me to respond to the mental pygmies who make up your tribe, and I will ask nothing more.
Continue to refuse to allow me to respond, and I must demand that you discontinue any thread which attacks me professionally. If you do not, I will take any and all actions available to me to protect my professional reputation, no matter what you may think of that reputation personally.
Stan Welch
HERE IS MY RESPONSE:
Stan: Good journalistic practice is to ask question, gather facts, and then draw conclusions.
It is not my fault that the technology of the system allows only one email address per account. Had I known that you had forgotten which one of your many pseduonyms you were planning to use, I might have been able to help. Instead, you just go assuming ... and assuming ... and assuming.
When you send me an email, give me a reasonable opportunity to respond. Not anwsering an email sent at 8:38 p.m. on a Friday isn't exactly fair is it? I'm sending you a registration as StanWelch and you can defend yourself all you want ...just as I said several weeks ago.
(Registration information withheld)
Happy self-defensing
N.- NickCharalambous
never mind i guess Nick know Lil' Stanley can't remember his name and password.
my bad.
Hay wow this was an old thread.
Hay wow this was an old thread.Jackass!
- MR. Hankey the D
Hay wow this was an old thread.Jackass!
- MR. Hankey the D
- friedgreenmater
did not see that movie.
I did see the cartoon Stanley and the great big book of everything.