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SC Should Apologize for Slavery?
Should South Carolina apologize for its role in Slavery the way Virgininia seems to be doing? South Carolina has this former slave market located in Charleston where slaves were bought and sold.
Are you referring to the market in Charleston today that is commonly called the slave market? No slaves were ever sold there. It is called the Slave's market because slaves as well as others would take items and goods there to sell. It is like the Farmer's Market. We don't go to the Farmer's Market to buy farmers
Maybe you should advertise one of your children or grandchildren in the classifieds for sale to see how it feels.
I suppose I should have said Slave Mart in Charleston.
I suppose I should have said Slave Mart in Charleston.
Mr. Lee, I think you just post stuff to get a rise out of people. But if you are serious, why should the people of SC apologize for something that happened, when none of the people living here now were alive. I mean wouldn't that be like asking the English to apologize for what they did to every country and people they ever had reign over. It's nuts
My surname people were not even here during that time. Why should I pay or apologize. Did the British ever pay or apologize to the Irish for the persecution of the Irish race?
BLee, there is slavery still going on in Africa and Asia. Shouldn't we all focus our efforts on stopping the current slave trade instead of living in the past with South Carolina? I mean, if you reparations for slavery in South Carolina, how does that help a little Asian girl who sold today into slavery?
Is all about the money, or doing what is right?
Think on it before you comment again.
Is all about the money, or doing what is right?
Think on it before you comment again.
BLee, there is slavery still going on in Africa and Asia. Shouldn't we all focus our efforts on stopping the current slave trade instead of living in the past with South Carolina? I mean, if you reparations for slavery in South Carolina, how does that help a little Asian girl who sold today into slavery?
Is all about the money, or doing what is right?
Think on it before you comment again.- rbrianmccarty
You don't tell me what I think about anyway. Slavery was an evil of the South no matter how you want and your party want to sugar coat it. Where were you the other day when Ron Wilson called you down? You are just another thin lipped Republican Cracker.
How many interracial children do you and Strom Thurmond have? What's the "R" for? Republican or Racist or a combination of both?
BLee, there is slavery still going on in Africa and Asia. Shouldn't we all focus our efforts on stopping the current slave trade instead of living in the past with South Carolina? I mean, if you reparations for slavery in South Carolina, how does that help a little Asian girl who sold today into slavery?
Is all about the money, or doing what is right?
Think on it before you comment again.- rbrianmccarty
You don't tell me what I think about anyway. Slavery was an evil of the South no matter how you want and your party want to sugar coat it. Where were the other day when Ron Wilson called you down. You are just another thin lipped Republican Cracker.
How many interracial children do you and Strom Thurmond have? What's the "R" for? Republican or Racist or both?- BLee
Slavery was an evil in quite a few NOrthern States too. And had it been economically feasible I dare say the folks in the Bay State would have kept them until much later than they did. I think thats where the first were landed in the new world. The Portugese and a lot of others to include Africans were up to their arms pits in flesh dealing.
When the Civil War erupted slavery was lawful in Mo, Delaware, Maryland and Kentucky. When Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation he procalimed slaves free in the states that were in rebellion.
Should SC apologize? To what end? To accomplish what?
I think everyone abhors slavery, and I make no apology saying that. But I cannot apologize for my ancestors, if they even owned slaves, which I'm not sure they did. I can truthfully say that I'm sorry that such a sad state existed in my country and indeed anywhere in the world, then and now.
Blee,
Should we apologize as well for being the birthplace for Andrew Jackson- a man who presided over the stealing of pretty much every stretch of Indian land east of the Mississippi?
If we're going to apologize for slavery- something none of us had a hand in- then should we not apologize for actions that allowed for the spread of such acts?
The fact that morons bring forth such an argument is a testament to the ridiculousness of so many that care more about apologizing for what they had no part in or trying to right the wrongs of earlier generations.
Should we apologize as well for being the birthplace for Andrew Jackson- a man who presided over the stealing of pretty much every stretch of Indian land east of the Mississippi?
If we're going to apologize for slavery- something none of us had a hand in- then should we not apologize for actions that allowed for the spread of such acts?
The fact that morons bring forth such an argument is a testament to the ridiculousness of so many that care more about apologizing for what they had no part in or trying to right the wrongs of earlier generations.
I would suggest that before considering an apology for slavery we should think about the Native Americans from whom we stole their lands and some who we still enslave on reservations in substandard conditions.
Or, how about the slavery currently going on:
This was taken from a newspaper article last week--its source was UN and US statistics:
“An estimated 300,000 children have been forced to serve as child soldiers in more than 30 conflicts. Each year, human trafficking for sexual servitude or forced labor moves 800,000 people across international borders, including some 17,500 foreigners trafficked into the United States. Some 200,000 people are considered to live enslaved in the US.“
In this global society, who should apologize to these unfortunate slaves ?
No, it isn't possibly to apologize for acts by other people or nations, just stick to saying 'sorry' to those you personally treat poorly.
“…and so it goes.” KV
Or, how about the slavery currently going on:
This was taken from a newspaper article last week--its source was UN and US statistics:
“An estimated 300,000 children have been forced to serve as child soldiers in more than 30 conflicts. Each year, human trafficking for sexual servitude or forced labor moves 800,000 people across international borders, including some 17,500 foreigners trafficked into the United States. Some 200,000 people are considered to live enslaved in the US.“
In this global society, who should apologize to these unfortunate slaves ?
No, it isn't possibly to apologize for acts by other people or nations, just stick to saying 'sorry' to those you personally treat poorly.
“…and so it goes.” KV
I ... Being born and raised a South Carolinian. Do apologize for all wrong doings of all of South Carolinians before me.
Done!
Done!
Has SC never made a public apology for its role in promoting and defending slavery?
If not a fairly simple gesture should do. Pass a resolution in the SC legislature apologizing for past wrongs. It seems like it would be appropriate to do that for wrongs committed both towards African Americans and Native Americans.
It might be only symbolic, but symbolism is important. I don't think you ever really get past something until you own up to it. In my opinion that's at the heart of the Christian idea of repentance.
And before folks write in saying you can't repent for another person's sins, the Bible has a plethora of examples where one person or a group of people petition God on behalf of others for forgiveness. It's called intercession.
But the real reason to do it is to humbly show love to our African American and Native American brothers and sisters who for so long have endured the disrespect associated with not EVER having gotten an apology.
If not a fairly simple gesture should do. Pass a resolution in the SC legislature apologizing for past wrongs. It seems like it would be appropriate to do that for wrongs committed both towards African Americans and Native Americans.
It might be only symbolic, but symbolism is important. I don't think you ever really get past something until you own up to it. In my opinion that's at the heart of the Christian idea of repentance.
And before folks write in saying you can't repent for another person's sins, the Bible has a plethora of examples where one person or a group of people petition God on behalf of others for forgiveness. It's called intercession.
But the real reason to do it is to humbly show love to our African American and Native American brothers and sisters who for so long have endured the disrespect associated with not EVER having gotten an apology.
Should South Carolina apologize for its role in Slavery the way Virgininia seems to be doing? South Carolina has this former slave market located in Charleston where slaves were bought and sold.- BLee
BLee,
I suggest you write a letter to Anderson Mayor Terence Robert to express your concerns. You are familiar with Mr. Roberts, aren't you? HE IS THE BLACK MAN WE ELECTED MAYOR!
Given a choice between receiving an apology note or a vote in the ballot box, which is preferred? Mere apologies for the acts of past generations do nothing to help future generations. Elections do.
Also, you could organize a rally to promote your idea. For a rally location, might I suggest having it at the African American History Monument on the Statehouse grounds in Columbia? Do check out the photographs of the bronze images of slave conditions of South Carolina's earlier days. If you look up some of the newspaper articles that were published on the monument, you might find that the apology has already been extended by the State of South Carolina.
http://www.usca.edu/aasc/African-AmericanMonument.htm
The following website also has a nice picture, and this interesting note:
http://columbiacvb.com/listings/index.cfm?action=displayListing&listingID;=2045&catID;=23
“The African American History Monument, the first of its kind on any of the nation's statehouse grounds, was designed to recapture the rich history of African Americans and their contributions to the state of South Carolina" An apology is easy and will soon be forgotten. Spending a million dollars on a permanent bronze and granite monument speaks volumes to the conscience of future generations, so that they might not repeat the sins of the past.
From the above quotation, it appears that the other states have some catching up to South Carolina to do, including Virginia. So please, do catch the next bus headed across the SC border and start a crusade elsewhere. And, while you are headed out, you might stop by the office of that black man James E. Clyburn, popularly elected South Carolina Representative to the Congress of the United States of America.
http://clyburn.house.gov/
Of course, when you get there, he might be busy telephoning another black man.....Presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Slavery is indeed a tragic part of American history. If people haven’t taken pause to apologize to blacks for the events of a distant past, maybe it’s because they are voting them into political office, today. In doing so, we focus on making a better future, instead of dredging up the past.
It is quite understandable that people spend so much time clinging to the terrible problems and injustices of the distant past. (Some, on the other hand, cling to the lost glories of an equally distant past.) It is an easy excuse to avoid offering anything constructive to deal with the problems and injustices that confront us today.
Should South Carolina apologize for its role in Slavery the way Virgininia seems to be doing? South Carolina has this former slave market located in Charleston where slaves were bought and sold.- BLee
BLee,
I suggest you write a letter to Anderson Mayor Terence Robert to express your concerns. You are familiar with Mr. Roberts, aren't you? HE IS THE BLACK MAN WE ELECTED MAYOR!
Given a choice between receiving an apology note or a vote in the ballot box, which is preferred? Mere apologies for the acts of past generations do nothing to help future generations. Elections do.
Also, you could organize a rally to promote your idea. For a rally location, might I suggest having it at the African American History Monument on the Statehouse grounds in Columbia? Do check out the photographs of the bronze images of slave conditions of South Carolina's earlier days. If you look up some of the newspaper articles that were published on the monument, you might find that the apology has already been extended by the State of South Carolina.
http://www.usca.edu/aasc/African-AmericanMonument.htm
The following website also has a nice picture, and this interesting note:
http://columbiacvb.com/listings/index.cfm?action=displayListing&listingID;=2045&catID;=23
“The African American History Monument, the first of its kind on any of the nation's statehouse grounds, was designed to recapture the rich history of African Americans and their contributions to the state of South Carolina" An apology is easy and will soon be forgotten. Spending a million dollars on a permanent bronze and granite monument speaks volumes to the conscience of future generations, so that they might not repeat the sins of the past.
From the above quotation, it appears that the other states have some catching up to South Carolina to do, including Virginia. So please, do catch the next bus headed across the SC border and start a crusade elsewhere. And, while you are headed out, you might stop by the office of that black man James E. Clyburn, popularly elected South Carolina Representative to the Congress of the United States of America.
http://clyburn.house.gov/
Of course, when you get there, he might be busy telephoning another black man.....Presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Slavery is indeed a tragic part of American history. If people haven’t taken pause to apologize to blacks for the events of a distant past, maybe it’s because they are voting them into political office, today. In doing so, we focus on making a better future, instead of dredging up the past.
It is quite understandable that people spend so much time clinging to the terrible problems and injustices of the distant past. (Some, on the other hand, cling to the lost glories of an equally distant past.) It is an easy excuse to avoid offering anything constructive to deal with the problems and injustices that confront us today.
- IA Critic
IA.Critic
And may I add, read Senator's Obama's book , Audacity of Hope. African Americans need no more proof of their status in the world.
If he maintains his integrity, he would make a great President,
"...and so it goes." KV
Yes, SC should apologize, then give all Blacks reparations for the injustice and travesty that has been imposed on us for the past 400 years. From slavery to Jim Crow to the systematic destruction of the Black family, it has been the WHITE man who has been at the forefront of all of it.
Bring us JUSTICE! Gimme my REPARATIONS!!!
Bring us JUSTICE! Gimme my REPARATIONS!!!
Just exactly why should anyone living today apologize for something their ancestors did, and I cannot include my self in this since my people didn't come here to this country until like 1900. By the way it was done legally. In addition should the blacks that owned slaves also be made to apologize and make reperations to the blacks of today. How in God's name can you ask the people of today who have no real concept of slavery, we have never lived with it,. apologize for something they can't even understand
Just exactly why should anyone living today apologize for something their ancestors did, and I cannot include my self in this since my people didn't come here to this country until like 1900. By the way it was done legally. In addition should the blacks that owned slaves also be made to apologize and make reperations to the blacks of today. How in God's name can you ask the people of today who have no real concept of slavery, we have never lived with it,. apologize for something they can't even understand- noeline
Noeline--
You raise an interesting point. Why should people coming here after the Civil War have any reason to apologize ?
I agree, let's all get on with our lives and treat everyone here and now with respect and kindness.
"...and so it goes." KV
I think that the true apology that our society owes is for allowing the education system in poor neighborhoods to deteriorate to shameful levels. Think of what we have discovered after Hurricane Katrina in some parts of New Orleans. The education system practically collapsed, the neighborhoods followed, and the people became too helpless to move away from the eye of the storm. This situation still exists today in many parts of our State and very little is being done to correct it.
Oh please Art. If anyone would care to remember Katrina actually do very little damage to New Orleans, it was the floods after the hurricane passed when the levies broke. If the pwoers that be in New Orleans had done their jobs and used the school buses to get the people out of New Oleans before the hurricane hit, none of that awful mess that happened down there would have. In addition, I don't know about you but if a catagory 5 was coming down on me and I had no means of transportation. I would start walking north they all had about a weeks notice that Katrina was coming and it was gonna be big and nasty. So lets not put the blame on every one else there is such a thing as a little bit of personal responsibility. Even dumb animals move when there is a bad storm coming. Hurricanes are not like tornados they give a lot of warning a tornado strikes in minutes and there is not a whole lot you can do about it.
